Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 12U S Army Corps | $7.50 | $4.40 | $3.30 |
| 210Computer Hacker | — | $13.30 | $4.70 |
| 33Midnight Arkle | — | — | $6.20 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 2-10 | $1.00 | $50.30 |
| Trifecta | 2-10-3 | $0.20 | $63.75 |
| Superfecta | 2-10-3-6 | $0.20 | $566.29 |
Claiming7 Furlongs · All Weather Track · Fast · Purse $28,600
HorsePaceSpeedClassEVWinMLLive odds
1Midnight Tempesta124 lbLJose Campos55.18510/143/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.8
- Middle
- 5.9
- Finish
- 6.2
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.1
- Career best · average
- 76.0 · 70.0
- Class, average · last
- 85 · 80
- Power
- 70.1 · 3rd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jose Campos
- Trainer
- Steven Chircop 9/69
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 27d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 4 Jul | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 73.0 | Rico Walcott | 121 |
| Fri 20 Jun | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 5 | 69.0 | Jose Campos | 122 |
| Fri 30 May | WOODBINE | 7 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 70.0 | Pietro Moran | 117 |
| Thu 22 May | WOODBINE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 65.0 | Pietro Moran | 117 |
| Fri 21 Mar | PENN NATIONAL | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 6 | 80.0 | Maicol Inirio | 123 |
| Thu 13 Mar | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 7 | 36.0 | Tyler Conner | 125 |
| Fri 21 Feb | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 74.0 | Julio Hernandez | 123 |
| Fri 14 Feb | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Julio Hernandez | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2U S Army Corps124 lbLDaisuke Fukumoto54.3864/111/4
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.6
- Middle
- 5.7
- Finish
- 4.7
- Post draw
- 14.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.3
- Career best · average
- 83.0 · 75.0
- Class, average · last
- 86 · 77
- Power
- 72.8 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 45: 6-6-5
- Wins
- 13.3%
- Earnings
- $140,728
- Per start
- $3,127.29
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Daisuke Fukumoto
- Trainer
- Jason Marrocco 0/6
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 20d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 11 Jul | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 2 | 790.0 | Daisuke Fukumoto | 124 |
| Thu 26 Jun | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 730.0 | Daisuke Fukumoto | 124 |
| Fri 13 Jun | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 4 | 700.0 | Daisuke Fukumoto | 124 |
| Fri 6 Jun | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Synthetic | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Daisuke Fukumoto | 121 |
| Sat 24 May | WOODBINE | 7 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 770.0 | Daisuke Fukumoto | 124 |
| Thu 5 Dec | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Daisuke Fukumoto | — |
| Thu 5 Dec | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 2 | 860.0 | Daisuke Fukumoto | 123 |
| Thu 14 Nov | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 800.0 | Daisuke Fukumoto | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Midnight Arkle122 lbLSlade Jones55.3855/131/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.1
- Middle
- 6.8
- Finish
- 5.1
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.3
- Career best · average
- 77.0 · 74.0
- Class, average · last
- 85 · 77
- Power
- 67.9 · 6th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Slade Jones
- Trainer
- Zeljko Krcmar 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 20d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 11 Jul | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 720.0 | Xarel Forde | 117 |
| Thu 26 Jun | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 2 | 720.0 | Xarel Forde | 117 |
| Fri 30 May | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 680.0 | Jose Campos | 122 |
| Sun 8 Dec | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 4 | 790.0 | Ryan Munger | 121 |
| Thu 14 Nov | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 770.0 | Keveh Nicholls | 121 |
| Fri 1 Nov | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 2 | 850.0 | Keveh Nicholls | 123 |
| Fri 18 Oct | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 710.0 | Jose Campos | 121 |
| Tue 8 Oct | FORT ERIE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Jose Campos | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Orphan Hallie117 lbLCheyenne Kerr54.78420/1114/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.8
- Middle
- 7.6
- Finish
- 6.2
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.7
- Career best · average
- 72.0 · 67.0
- Class, average · last
- 84 · 80
- Power
- 56.1 · 10th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Cheyenne Kerr
- Trainer
- Ravendra Raghunath 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 117 · 27d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 4 Jul | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 55.0 | Kirk Johnson | 121 |
| Fri 13 Jun | WOODBINE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 580.0 | Kirk Johnson | 122 |
| Fri 13 Dec | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 8 | 72.0 | Daisuke Fukumoto | 121 |
| Thu 28 Nov | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 71.0 | Da-Sean Gaskin | 121 |
| Fri 8 Nov | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 59.0 | Da-Sean Gaskin | 121 |
| Sat 26 Oct | WOODBINE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 9 | 67.0 | Eswan Flores | 122 |
| Fri 4 Oct | WOODBINE | 7 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 72.0 | Da-Sean Gaskin | 116 |
| Fri 2 Aug | WOODBINE | 7 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 8 | 64.0 | Da-Sean Gaskin | 116 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Mo Tourist122 lbLJason Hoyte54.7846/129/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.9
- Middle
- 7.0
- Finish
- 4.4
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.7
- Career best · average
- 85.0 · 74.0
- Class, average · last
- 84 · 79
- Power
- 68.4 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jason Hoyte
- Trainer
- W. Armata 0/4
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 27d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 4 Jul | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 2 | 750.0 | Jason Hoyte | 122 |
| Sun 15 Jun | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Optional Claiming | 7 | 630.0 | Jason Hoyte | 122 |
| Fri 30 May | WOODBINE | 7 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Leo Salles | 123 |
| Sun 15 Dec | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Da-Sean Gaskin | 121 |
| Fri 13 Dec | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Sahin Civaci | 123 |
| Fri 29 Nov | WOODBINE | 7 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 850.0 | Sahin Civaci | 121 |
| Fri 15 Nov | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 710.0 | Da-Sean Gaskin | 121 |
| Sun 3 Nov | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Optional Claiming | — | not run | Leo Salles | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Whiskey Row124 lbLRico Walcott54.7738/131/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.7
- Middle
- 5.1
- Finish
- 5.0
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.7
- Career best · average
- 75.0 · 58.0
- Class, average · last
- 73 · 66
- Power
- 64.6 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Rico Walcott
- Trainer
- Steven Chircop 1/7
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 21d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 10 Jul | WOODBINE | 7 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 1 | 720.0 | Rico Walcott | 121 |
| Fri 13 Jun | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 570.0 | Rico Walcott | 122 |
| Fri 6 Jun | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Synthetic | Claiming | — | not run | Rico Walcott | 122 |
| Sun 18 May | WOODBINE | 7 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 620.0 | Michael David | 122 |
| Sun 4 May | WOODBINE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 490.0 | Michael David | 122 |
| Fri 21 Mar | PENN NATIONAL | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 640.0 | Maicol Inirio | 123 |
| Fri 7 Mar | PENN NATIONAL | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 650.0 | Maicol Inirio | 123 |
| Fri 21 Feb | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 450.0 | Julio Hernandez | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Mt Logan124 lbLRyan Munger54.9923/17/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.2
- Middle
- 6.0
- Finish
- 4.7
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.9
- Career best · average
- 92.0 · 83.0
- Class, average · last
- 92 · 87
- Power
- 71.9 · 2nd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Ryan Munger
- Trainer
- Barbara Minshall 5/24
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 20d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 11 Jul | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 7 | 67.0 | Fraser Aebly | 121 |
| Sun 8 Dec | WOODBINE | 7 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 92.0 | Fraser Aebly | 121 |
| Thu 14 Nov | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Starter Optional Claiming | 7 | 96.0 | Sofia Vives | 121 |
| Thu 10 Oct | WOODBINE | 7 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 79.0 | Justin Stein | 121 |
| Sun 29 Sep | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 83.0 | Emma-Jayne Wilson | 121 |
| Sat 27 Jul | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 1 | 81.0 | Emma-Jayne Wilson | 123 |
| Fri 17 Nov | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 78.0 | Justin Stein | 121 |
| Fri 27 Oct | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 4 | 87.0 | Eswan Flores | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Jo Daddy119 lbLXarel Forde51.9898/141/7
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.9
- Middle
- 5.6
- Finish
- 7.8
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 51.9
- Career best · average
- 63.0 · 63.0
- Class, average · last
- 89 · 85
- Power
- 68.5 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 17: 2-0-2
- Wins
- 11.8%
- Earnings
- $77,932
- Per start
- $4,584.24
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Xarel Forde
- Trainer
- Carlos Grant 0/4
- Weight · days off
- 119 · 41d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 20 Jun | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 740.0 | Ryan Munger | 123 |
| Sun 1 Dec | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | not run | David Moran | — |
| Sun 17 Nov | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Lake Ontario S. | 4 | 820.0 | Sahin Civaci | 118 |
| Sun 20 Oct | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf | Claiming | 3 | 860.0 | Sahin Civaci | 123 |
| Sun 29 Sep | WOODBINE | 1 Mile · Inner turf | Claiming | 1 | 860.0 | Sahin Civaci | 120 |
| Fri 13 Sep | WOODBINE | 1 Mile · Inner turf | Optional Claiming | 6 | 820.0 | Sofia Vives | 119 |
| Fri 23 Aug | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Optional Claiming | 7 | 630.0 | Emma-Jayne Wilson | 119 |
| Sun 4 Aug | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · Turf | Lake Superior S. | 3 | 720.0 | Emma-Jayne Wilson | 118 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Gendragon122 lbLSofia Vives53.08220/149/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.0
- Middle
- 5.1
- Finish
- 6.9
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.0
- Career best · average
- — · 59.0
- Class, average · last
- 82 · 79
- Power
- 55.7 · 11th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Sofia Vives
- Trainer
- Orane Scott
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 27d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 4 Jul | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 59.0 | Affrie Ward | 122 |
| Fri 13 Jun | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 560.0 | Leo Salles | 124 |
| Fri 23 May | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 48.0 | Daisuke Fukumoto | 123 |
| Sun 23 Jun | WOODBINE | 1 Mile · Inner turf | Claiming | — | not run | Cheyenne Kerr | 113 |
| Sun 2 Jun | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 72.0 | Cheyenne Kerr | 112 |
| Sat 9 Dec | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 4 | 67.0 | Jose Campos | 123 |
| Fri 1 Dec | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 4 | 63.0 | Jose Campos | 123 |
| Sun 19 Nov | WOODBINE | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 80.0 | Jose Campos | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Computer Hacker117 lbLPietro Moran54.37820/147/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.6
- Middle
- 6.2
- Finish
- 5.6
- Post draw
- 6.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.3
- Career best · average
- 77.0 · 56.0
- Class, average · last
- 78 · 81
- Power
- 61.0 · 9th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Pietro Moran
- Trainer
- Kerron Palmer 0/2
- Weight · days off
- 117 · 48d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 13 Jun | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 600.0 | Leo Salles | 124 |
| Fri 6 Jun | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Synthetic | Claiming | — | not run | Leo Salles | 122 |
| Sun 18 May | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 66.0 | Edgar Zenteno | 124 |
| Sun 15 Dec | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 70.0 | Omar Moreno | 121 |
| Fri 29 Nov | WOODBINE | 7 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 77.0 | Alexis Sanchez | 114 |
| Fri 1 Nov | WOODBINE | 7 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 1 | 75.0 | Edgar Zenteno | 121 |
| Fri 13 Sep | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 9 | 46.0 | Omelio Francis | 120 |
| Fri 23 Aug | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 8 | 45.0 | Sofia Vives | 115 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
11Celentano122 lbLLeo Salles54.98015/141/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.9
- Middle
- 5.9
- Finish
- 4.6
- Post draw
- 4.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.9
- Career best · average
- 71.0 · 70.0
- Class, average · last
- 80 · 77
- Power
- 66.2 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Leo Salles
- Trainer
- Norman McKnight 1/16
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 20d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 11 Jul | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 67.0 | Leo Salles | 124 |
| Fri 13 Jun | WOODBINE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 1 | 67.0 | Leo Salles | 123 |
| Fri 23 May | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 73.0 | Pietro Moran | 118 |
| Fri 14 Mar | OAKLAWN PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 10 | 30.0 | Fernando Jara | 122 |
| Sun 8 Dec | WOODBINE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 8 | 70.0 | Luis Contreras | 125 |
| Fri 8 Nov | WOODBINE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 2 | 81.0 | Leo Salles | 123 |
| Thu 24 Oct | WOODBINE | 5 Furlongs · Inner turf | Claiming | 3 | 75.0 | Leo Salles | 123 |
| Fri 27 Sep | WOODBINE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 76.0 | Leo Salles | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate