Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 15Wellswort (IRE) | $9.00 | $4.00 | $2.60 |
| 24Thirty Four Coupe | — | $3.80 | $3.00 |
| 32Ted | — | — | $3.00 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 5-4 | — | $20.10 |
| Trifecta | 5-4-2 | — | $34.10 |
| Superfecta | 5-4-2-11 | — | $36.12 |
Allowance Optional Claiming1 Mile · Turf · Firm · Purse $22,500
HorsePaceSpeedClassEVWinMLLive odds
1Medimpact122 lbLFrancisco Garcia56.49515/159/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.4
- Middle
- 7.4
- Finish
- 6.8
- Post draw
- 16.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 56.4
- Career best · average
- 93.0 · 83.0
- Class, average · last
- 95 · 102
- Power
- 68.1 · 11th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $4,952.56
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Francisco Garcia
- Trainer
- Kevin Eikleberry 1/13
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 61d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 5 Feb | TURF PARADISE | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 93.0 | Francisco Garcia | 122 |
| Wed 22 Jan | TURF PARADISE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 9 | 78.0 | Manuel Americano | 117 |
| Mon 23 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 82.0 | Ken Tohill | 124 |
| Thu 10 Oct | BELMONT AT THE BIG A | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 560.0 | — | — |
| Sun 15 Sep | BELMONT AT THE BIG A | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 740.0 | — | — |
| Wed 14 Aug | SARATOGA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 570.0 | — | — |
| Thu 25 Jul | SARATOGA | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 600.0 | — | — |
| Tue 2 Jul | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 680.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Ted122 lbLKarlo Lopez54.3964/117/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.7
- Middle
- 3.9
- Finish
- 3.8
- Post draw
- 16.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.3
- Career best · average
- 104.0 · 88.0
- Class, average · last
- 96 · 102
- Power
- 95.6 · 3rd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $3,358.24
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Karlo Lopez
- Trainer
- Justin Evans 34/130
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 20d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 18 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 1040.0 | Karlo Lopez | 122 |
| Sat 11 May | LONE STAR | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 810.0 | Harry Hernandez | — |
| Sun 21 Apr | LONE STAR | 1 Mile · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 760.0 | Rene Diaz | — |
| Tue 26 Mar | TURF PARADISE | About 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 930.0 | Luis Negron | 122 |
| Tue 5 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 910.0 | Luis Negron | 122 |
| Sat 11 Nov | REMINGTON PARK | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 830.0 | Luis Fuentes | 121 |
| Fri 29 Sep | REMINGTON PARK | About 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 4 | 900.0 | Luis Fuentes | 120 |
| Sat 9 Sep | REMINGTON PARK | About 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 1020.0 | Luis Fuentes | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Don't Let Me Down117 lbLManuel Americano53.39410/117/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.7
- Middle
- 4.4
- Finish
- 3.9
- Post draw
- 14.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.3
- Career best · average
- 91.0 · 84.0
- Class, average · last
- 94 · 99
- Power
- 84.4 · 10th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $3,212.14
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Manuel Americano
- Trainer
- Gonzalo Anderson 3/10
- Weight · days off
- 117 · 19d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 3 Apr | SUNLAND PARK | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 740.0 | — | — |
| Wed 19 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 7 | 880.0 | Manuel Americano | 117 |
| Fri 14 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 650.0 | — | — |
| Tue 4 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 890.0 | Manuel Americano | 119 |
| Sun 16 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 10 | 270.0 | — | — |
| Sat 25 Jan | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Daniel Vergara | 122 |
| Thu 16 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 640.0 | — | — |
| Tue 31 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 840.0 | Rasheed Hughes | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Thirty Four Coupe122 lbLAdrian Castellanos55.81003/113/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.6
- Middle
- 2.8
- Finish
- 4.0
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.8
- Career best · average
- 110.0 · 90.0
- Class, average · last
- 100 · 103
- Power
- 94.3 · 6th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Adrian Castellanos
- Trainer
- Manuel Ortiz, Sr.
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 22d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 16 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 750.0 | Armando Aguilar | 124 |
| Sun 23 Feb | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 830.0 | Adrian Castellanos | 122 |
| Fri 17 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 1070.0 | Flavien Prat | 122 |
| Fri 22 Nov | DEL MAR | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 940.0 | Tiago Pereira | 125 |
| Sun 27 Oct | SANTA ANITA | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 920.0 | Armando Aguilar | 122 |
| Sun 14 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 1 1/8 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 1 | 930.0 | Lanfranco Dettori | 124 |
| Sun 19 Nov | DEL MAR | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 3 | 920.0 | Umberto Rispoli | 125 |
| Thu 2 Nov | SANTA ANITA | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 6 | 820.0 | Lanfranco Dettori | 124 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Wellswort (IRE)122 lbLOrlando Mojica54.9968/17/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.2
- Middle
- 4.6
- Finish
- 2.8
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.9
- Career best · average
- 103.0 · 88.0
- Class, average · last
- 96 · 102
- Power
- 100.2 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Orlando Mojica
- Trainer
- Jose Silva, Jr.
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 20d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 18 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 103.0 | Guillermo Rodriguez | 122 |
| Mon 3 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 2 | 94.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 124 |
| Tue 11 Feb | TURF PARADISE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 94.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 124 |
| Sat 28 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 2 | 97.0 | Franklin Ceballos | 124 |
| Mon 9 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 92.0 | Franklin Ceballos | 122 |
| Tue 19 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 56.0 | Franklin Ceballos | 122 |
| Fri 1 Nov | PLEASANTON | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 73.0 | Frank Alvarado | — |
| Sat 21 Sep | FRESNO | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 92.0 | Frank Alvarado | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6I'm Noble122 lbLAlex Cruz54.79615/150/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.4
- Middle
- 3.4
- Finish
- 4.0
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.7
- Career best · average
- 98.0 · 83.0
- Class, average · last
- 96 · 102
- Power
- 91.2 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Alex Cruz
- Trainer
- Joe Toye 21/91
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 20d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 18 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 7 | 98.0 | Manuel Americano | 117 |
| Mon 24 Feb | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Alex Cruz | 124 |
| Tue 11 Feb | TURF PARADISE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Alex Cruz | 124 |
| Fri 3 Jan | OAKLAWN PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 6 | 530.0 | — | — |
| Mon 30 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Allowance | 5 | 86.0 | Alex Cruz | 124 |
| Wed 11 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 1 | 94.0 | Alex Cruz | 124 |
| Tue 3 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 7 | 94.0 | Alex Cruz | 122 |
| Sun 15 Sep | EMERALD DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 83.0 | Alex Cruz | 125 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Bert's Prospect124 lbLKevin Krigger53.8948/111/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.3
- Middle
- 4.6
- Finish
- 4.4
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.8
- Career best · average
- 94.0 · 87.0
- Class, average · last
- 94 · 93
- Power
- 86.2 · 9th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 2-1-0
- Wins
- 50.0%
- Earnings
- $96,358
- Per start
- $4,379.91
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Kevin Krigger
- Trainer
- Scott Tubbs 1/5
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 26d
6yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 12 Mar | TURF PARADISE | About 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 1 | 94.0 | Kevin Krigger | 122 |
| Tue 11 Feb | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 1 | 88.0 | Kevin Krigger | 124 |
| Tue 21 Jan | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 68.0 | Kevin Krigger | 122 |
| Tue 31 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Kevin Krigger | 124 |
| Sat 9 Nov | DEL MAR | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 88.0 | Tyler Baze | 125 |
| Fri 11 Oct | SANTA ANITA | 1 1/8 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 8 | 79.0 | Tyler Baze | 125 |
| Thu 22 Aug | DEL MAR | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 4 | 930.0 | Tyler Baze | 125 |
| Sat 3 Aug | DEL MAR | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 8 | 83.0 | Mike Smith | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Birth of Cool122 lbLJose Barnes54.710210/123/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.3
- Middle
- 4.1
- Finish
- 4.9
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.7
- Career best · average
- 102.0 · 90.0
- Class, average · last
- 102 · 102
- Power
- 95.0 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jose Barnes
- Trainer
- Juan Silva 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 20d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 18 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 8 | 970.0 | Alex Cruz | 122 |
| Tue 25 Feb | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Alex Cruz | 124 |
| Sat 25 Jan | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 890.0 | Alex Cruz | 122 |
| Wed 15 Jan | TURF PARADISE | About 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 940.0 | Karlo Lopez | 122 |
| Tue 31 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 830.0 | Karlo Lopez | 122 |
| Fri 13 Sep | LOS ALAMITOS THOROUGHBRED | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 1000.0 | Armando Ayuso | 126 |
| Sun 1 Sep | DEL MAR | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 1020.0 | Joseph Talamo | 121 |
| Sat 3 Aug | DEL MAR | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 10 | 410.0 | Joseph Talamo | 125 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9House of Lords122 lbLFausto Da Silva54.71016/113/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.4
- Middle
- 5.8
- Finish
- 4.7
- Post draw
- 6.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.7
- Career best · average
- 100.0 · 89.0
- Class, average · last
- 101 · 102
- Power
- 95.1 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 2-0-0
- Wins
- 50.0%
- Earnings
- $185,053
- Per start
- $3,558.71
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Fausto Da Silva
- Trainer
- Jose Silva, Jr. 35/133
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 20d
8yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 18 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 100.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 122 |
| Tue 4 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Fausto Da Silva | 122 |
| Thu 20 Feb | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 65.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 122 |
| Wed 15 Jan | TURF PARADISE | About 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 94.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 122 |
| Mon 30 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Allowance | 12 | 80.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 124 |
| Mon 2 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 95.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 122 |
| Wed 13 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 96.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 122 |
| Sat 21 Sep | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 87.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Cibertruck122 lbLHarry Hernandez54.49810/116/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.0
- Middle
- 5.4
- Finish
- 4.1
- Post draw
- 5.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.4
- Career best · average
- 102.0 · 88.0
- Class, average · last
- 98 · 97
- Power
- 96.0 · 2nd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Harry Hernandez
- Trainer
- Valorie Lund 0/2
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 14d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 24 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 940.0 | Harry Hernandez | 124 |
| Tue 4 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 960.0 | Karlo Lopez | 122 |
| Wed 5 Feb | TURF PARADISE | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 920.0 | Karlo Lopez | 122 |
| Mon 30 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Allowance | 7 | 840.0 | Luis Reyes | 124 |
| Mon 23 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 950.0 | Luis Reyes | 122 |
| Tue 3 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 1020.0 | Luis Reyes | 124 |
| Wed 20 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 1 | 990.0 | Luis Reyes | 124 |
| Sun 17 Nov | DEL MAR | 5 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 920.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
11Athens Moon122 lbLGuillermo Rodriguez54.3888/16/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.5
- Middle
- 4.1
- Finish
- 2.6
- Post draw
- 2.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.3
- Career best · average
- 97.0 · 78.0
- Class, average · last
- 88 · 102
- Power
- 89.4 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Guillermo Rodriguez
- Trainer
- Curt Ferguson 3/12
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 61d
Horse · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 4 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Guillermo Rodriguez | 122 |
| Wed 5 Feb | TURF PARADISE | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 97.0 | Guillermo Rodriguez | 122 |
| Mon 30 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Allowance | 3 | 91.0 | Guillermo Rodriguez | 124 |
| Tue 17 Dec | TURF PARADISE | About 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 87.0 | Guillermo Rodriguez | 122 |
| Wed 27 Nov | TURF PARADISE | About 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 81.0 | Daniel Vergara | 122 |
| Sun 17 Nov | ARAPAHOE | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Butch Gleason Classic S. | 4 | 79.0 | Alfredo Triana, Jr. | — |
| Sun 10 Nov | ARAPAHOE | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Butch Gleason Classic S. | — | not run | Bryan McNeil | — |
| Fri 18 Oct | ARAPAHOE | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 4 | 71.0 | Nathan Haar | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate