Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 15Coastal Waters | $5.40 | $3.00 | $2.10 |
| 22War Chest | — | $5.80 | $3.20 |
| 310Total Surprise | — | — | $2.60 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 5-2 | — | $13.90 |
| Trifecta | 5-2-10 | — | $19.80 |
| Superfecta | 5-2-10-8 | — | $13.74 |
Sir Flatter——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 2-1-0
- Wins
- 50.0%
- Earnings
- $173,680
- Per start
- $5,988.97
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
6yo · Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Sir Flatter.
Coastal Waters——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-1-1
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $33,910
- Per start
- $1,614.76
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
4yo · Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Coastal Waters.
Echo Canyon——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Echo Canyon.
Thirty Seconds Out——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $8,330.28
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Thirty Seconds Out.
1Sensemaker124 lbLKiaman McGregor54.48615/122/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.7
- Middle
- 2.8
- Finish
- 6.9
- Post draw
- 15.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.4
- Career best · average
- 89.0 · 74.0
- Class, average · last
- 86 · 86
- Power
- 71.9 · 6th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Kiaman McGregor
- Trainer
- Jack McCartney 6/51
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 85d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 1 Sep | EMERALD DOWNS | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Allowance | 4 | 690.0 | Carlos Montalvo | 122 |
| Sat 27 Jul | EMERALD DOWNS | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Allowance | 6 | 670.0 | Kiaman McGregor | 122 |
| Sat 6 Jul | EMERALD DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 750.0 | Alex Cruz | 125 |
| Sat 29 Jun | EMERALD DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 800.0 | Kevin Krigger | 122 |
| Fri 7 Jun | GOLDEN GATE | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 4 | 860.0 | Santos Rivera | 123 |
| Sun 12 May | GOLDEN GATE | 5 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 8 | 680.0 | Alexander Chavez | 123 |
| Tue 28 Mar | TURF PARADISE | About 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 810.0 | Glenn Corbett | 124 |
| Sat 4 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 940.0 | Glenn Corbett | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2War Chest124 lbLGuillermo Rodriguez54.5925/120/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.2
- Middle
- 5.4
- Finish
- 4.3
- Post draw
- 16.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.5
- Career best · average
- 93.0 · 83.0
- Class, average · last
- 92 · 86
- Power
- 77.7 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-0-1
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $298,025
- Per start
- $3,634.45
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Guillermo Rodriguez
- Trainer
- Ruben Fuentes 0/2
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 13d
11yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 12 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 86.0 | Luis Valenzuela | 124 |
| Tue 5 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Luis Valenzuela | — |
| Sat 28 Sep | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 5 | 86.0 | Serafin Carmona | 118 |
| Thu 12 Sep | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 90.0 | Serafin Carmona | 118 |
| Thu 29 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 1/4 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Luis Valenzuela | 124 |
| Sun 18 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Luis Valenzuela | 124 |
| Sat 10 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Luis Valenzuela | 124 |
| Sun 28 Jul | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 84.0 | Luis Valenzuela | 124 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Sir Flatter124 lbLLuis Valenzuela55.48912/155/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.2
- Middle
- 7.2
- Finish
- 4.8
- Post draw
- 15.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.4
- Career best · average
- — · 74.0
- Class, average · last
- 89 · 93
- Power
- 58.2 · 10th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Luis Valenzuela
- Trainer
- Luis Rojero 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 12d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 13 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | 60.0 | Luis Reyes | 122 |
| Wed 6 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Luis Reyes | — |
| Thu 26 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 7 | 63.0 | Felipe Valdez | — |
| Sat 7 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 60.0 | Felipe Valdez | — |
| Sat 24 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 4 | 76.0 | Felipe Valdez | — |
| Fri 26 Jul | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Felipe Valdez | — |
| Fri 26 Jul | ALBUQUERQUE | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 86.0 | Felipe Valdez | — |
| Thu 4 Jul | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 350 Yards · Dirt | Vista Distaff S. | — | not run | Felipe Valdez | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Hard Love124 lbLAlex Cruz53.48820/151/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.5
- Middle
- 3.6
- Finish
- 5.9
- Post draw
- 16.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.4
- Career best · average
- 84.0 · 61.0
- Class, average · last
- 88 · 77
- Power
- 72.0 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $6,487.91
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Alex Cruz
- Trainer
- Heath Lawrence 0/2
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 42d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 14 Oct | MOUNTAINEER | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 3.0 | Brandon Whitacre | 123 |
| Sun 22 Sep | MOUNTAINEER | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 52.0 | Brandon Whitacre | 123 |
| Mon 16 Sep | MOUNTAINEER | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Brandon Whitacre | 120 |
| Sun 8 Sep | MOUNTAINEER | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Allowance | — | not run | Brandon Whitacre | 120 |
| Mon 26 Aug | MOUNTAINEER | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 3 | 68.0 | Brandon Whitacre | 120 |
| Mon 12 Aug | MOUNTAINEER | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Brandon Whitacre | 123 |
| Mon 15 Jul | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 68.0 | Alexander Castillo | 122 |
| Tue 11 Jun | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 82.0 | Erik Asmussen | 117 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Coastal Waters124 lbLFausto Da Silva53.7883/112/7
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 8.0
- Middle
- 6.5
- Finish
- 3.6
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.7
- Career best · average
- 92.0 · 80.0
- Class, average · last
- 88 · 86
- Power
- 82.4 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,063.88
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Fausto Da Silva
- Trainer
- Jose Silva, Jr. 24/90
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 13d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 12 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 3 | 900.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 124 |
| Tue 5 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Fausto Da Silva | — |
| Thu 12 Sep | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 4 | 860.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 123 |
| Thu 29 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 1/4 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 690.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 124 |
| Sun 18 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Fausto Da Silva | 124 |
| Sat 10 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 1 | 890.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 124 |
| Thu 8 Aug | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance | 5 | 660.0 | — | — |
| Sun 28 Jul | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 850.0 | Fausto Da Silva | 124 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Zumurudee124 lbLEduardo Gallardo54.09115/170/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.5
- Middle
- 6.8
- Finish
- 5.7
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.0
- Career best · average
- 92.0 · 72.0
- Class, average · last
- 91 · 86
- Power
- 70.8 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 56: 7-9-11
- Wins
- 12.5%
- Earnings
- $263,056
- Per start
- $4,697.43
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Eduardo Gallardo
- Trainer
- Bennie Woolley, Jr. 0/6
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 13d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 12 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 12 | 710.0 | Eduardo Gallardo | 124 |
| Tue 5 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Eduardo Gallardo | — |
| Sat 28 Sep | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 810.0 | Roberto Morales | 123 |
| Thu 12 Sep | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 3 | 860.0 | Roberto Morales | 123 |
| Thu 29 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 1/4 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Roberto Morales | 124 |
| Sun 18 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Constantino Roman | 124 |
| Sun 28 Jul | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 8 | 570.0 | Brayan Pena | 124 |
| Sat 6 Jul | CANTERBURY PARK | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 680.0 | Guillermo Rodriguez | 124 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Thirty Seconds Out119 lbLManuel Americano53.29412/141/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.9
- Middle
- 3.1
- Finish
- 5.6
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.2
- Career best · average
- 82.0 · 69.0
- Class, average · last
- 94 · 86
- Power
- 53.1 · 11th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-0-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $122,858
- Per start
- $1,706.36
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Manuel Americano
- Trainer
- Curt Ferguson
- Weight · days off
- 119 · 13d
10yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 12 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 9 | 76.0 | Guillermo Rodriguez | 124 |
| Tue 5 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Guillermo Rodriguez | — |
| Sat 2 Nov | DEL MAR | 1 Mile · Dirt | Big Ass Fans Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile | 4 | 1030.0 | — | — |
| Sat 28 Sep | CHURCHILL DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Ack Ack S. | 2 | 990.0 | — | — |
| Sun 1 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 20.0 | Jorge Carreno | — |
| Sun 30 Jun | CHURCHILL DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Hanshin S. Presented by JRA | 2 | 1050.0 | — | — |
| Sat 30 Mar | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Ghostzapper S. | 2 | 930.0 | — | — |
| Sat 2 Mar | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Gulfstream Park Mile S. presented by Jack Christopher | 2 | 940.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Shut Up Michael (IRE)124 lbLDaniel Vergara55.2869/23/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.3
- Middle
- 2.1
- Finish
- 3.6
- Post draw
- 7.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.2
- Career best · average
- 85.0 · 72.0
- Class, average · last
- 86 · 86
- Power
- 78.4 · 3rd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Daniel Vergara
- Trainer
- Edward Kereluk 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 13d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 12 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 87.0 | Manuel Americano | 119 |
| Tue 5 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Manuel Americano | — |
| Fri 4 Oct | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 910.0 | — | — |
| Fri 13 Sep | LOS ALAMITOS THOROUGHBRED | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 820.0 | — | — |
| Thu 5 Sep | CANTERBURY PARK | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 1 | 84.0 | Serafin Carmona | 118 |
| Mon 2 Sep | CANTERBURY PARK | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Fausto Da Silva | 123 |
| Sun 11 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 84.0 | Serafin Carmona | 119 |
| Sat 10 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Luis Valenzuela | 124 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Dazzling Truths124 lbLLuis Reyes54.9878/158/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.7
- Middle
- 7.6
- Finish
- 6.5
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.9
- Career best · average
- 80.0 · 73.0
- Class, average · last
- 87 · 84
- Power
- 67.4 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Luis Reyes
- Trainer
- Juan Silva 0/3
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 13d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 12 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | not run | Luis Reyes | 124 |
| Sat 2 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Luis Reyes | — |
| Sun 6 Oct | MOUNTAINEER | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 800.0 | Luis Negron | 120 |
| Tue 1 Oct | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Victor Severino | 122 |
| Tue 24 Sep | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 760.0 | Addiel Ayala | 122 |
| Tue 10 Sep | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 870.0 | Addiel Ayala | 124 |
| Sun 1 Sep | GULFSTREAM PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 6 | 250.0 | — | — |
| Sat 17 Aug | COLONIAL DOWNS | 1 1/8 Miles · Outer turf | Claiming | — | not run | Ubardo Casique | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Total Surprise124 lbLOrlando Mojica53.4877/23
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.5
- Middle
- 5.5
- Finish
- 3.4
- Post draw
- 6.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.4
- Career best · average
- 83.0 · 74.0
- Class, average · last
- 87 · 86
- Power
- 78.7 · 2nd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Orlando Mojica
- Trainer
- Robertino Diodoro 4/19
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 13d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 12 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 4 | 900.0 | Orlando Mojica | 124 |
| Tue 5 Nov | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Orlando Mojica | — |
| Sat 28 Sep | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Luis Fuentes | 123 |
| Mon 2 Sep | CANTERBURY PARK | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 4 | 790.0 | Guillermo Rodriguez | 123 |
| Sun 18 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 690.0 | Luis Fuentes | 124 |
| Sun 28 Jul | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 1 | 870.0 | Luis Fuentes | 124 |
| Thu 4 Jul | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 740.0 | Constantino Roman | 124 |
| Thu 27 Jun | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Constantino Roman | 124 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate