Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 110Where Is Lisa | $35.28 | $13.78 | $8.32 |
| 24Fierce Assault | — | $4.66 | $4.08 |
| 36Sargent Hulka | — | — | $8.22 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 10-4 | — | $99.89 |
| Trifecta | 10-4-6 | — | $461.33 |
| Superfecta | 10-4-6-3 | — | $514.01 |
Storm's Reflection——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 12: 1-1-0
- Wins
- 8.3%
- Earnings
- $12,724
- Per start
- $1,060.33
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Storm's Reflection.
Where Is Lisa——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Where Is Lisa.
Where Is Lisa——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Where Is Lisa.
1San Marco City121 lbLEder Martinez52.98120/126/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 8.7
- Middle
- 7.4
- Finish
- 4.5
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.9
- Career best · average
- 86.0 · 73.0
- Class, average · last
- 81 · 89
- Power
- 70.6 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-0-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $53,442
- Per start
- $1,979.33
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Eder Martinez
- Trainer
- Richard Estvanko 13/65
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 92d
6yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 5 Sep | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 10 | 720.0 | Eder Martinez | 123 |
| Wed 31 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Eder Martinez | 123 |
| Thu 20 Jun | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 520.0 | Eder Martinez | 123 |
| Fri 24 May | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Eder Martinez | 123 |
| Wed 20 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 790.0 | Eder Martinez | 124 |
| Sat 9 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 8 | 670.0 | Eder Martinez | 127 |
| Wed 14 Feb | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 1 | 860.0 | Eder Martinez | — |
| Wed 31 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 4 | 800.0 | Eder Martinez | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Tom's Spirit121 lbLYoel Navas52.1748/154/11
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.8
- Middle
- 4.5
- Finish
- 3.6
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.1
- Career best · average
- 75.0 · 67.0
- Class, average · last
- 74 · 78
- Power
- 65.8 · 12th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 1-1-0
- Wins
- 25.0%
- Earnings
- $67,103
- Per start
- $2,313.90
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Yoel Navas
- Trainer
- William Cowans 9/37
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 78d
6yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 19 Sep | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 730.0 | Yoel Navas | 123 |
| Fri 23 Aug | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 660.0 | Yoel Navas | 123 |
| Mon 30 Oct | MAHONING VALLEY RACE COURSE | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 540.0 | Rafael Mojica, Jr. | — |
| Wed 2 Aug | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 730.0 | Yoel Navas | — |
| Mon 10 Jul | THISTLEDOWN | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 3 | 630.0 | Jose Bracho | 119 |
| Sat 10 Jun | BELTERRA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 740.0 | Jose Bracho | 123 |
| Thu 3 Nov | CHURCHILL DOWNS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 5 | 430.0 | — | — |
| Fri 23 Sep | CHURCHILL DOWNS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 5 | 680.0 | Luan Machado | 119 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Fierce Assault121 lbLSanto Sanjur53.5856/119/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.9
- Middle
- 3.9
- Finish
- 2.8
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.5
- Career best · average
- 85.0 · 75.0
- Class, average · last
- 85 · 84
- Power
- 76.7 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Santo Sanjur
- Trainer
- Tim Eggleston 15/75
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 32d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 4 Nov | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 780.0 | Santo Sanjur | 121 |
| Mon 7 Oct | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 12 | 690.0 | Santo Sanjur | 122 |
| Thu 22 Aug | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 620.0 | Samuel Bermudez | 121 |
| Mon 19 Aug | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Samuel Bermudez | 122 |
| Mon 29 Jul | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 690.0 | Santo Sanjur | 122 |
| Tue 2 Jul | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 5 | 750.0 | Santo Sanjur | 122 |
| Tue 21 May | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 8 | 770.0 | Orlando Mojica | — |
| Wed 27 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Abel Cedillo | 124 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Sargent Hulka121 lbLAlberto Burgos53.48412/138/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.0
- Middle
- 6.9
- Finish
- 8.5
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.4
- Career best · average
- 53.0 · 66.0
- Class, average · last
- 84 · 86
- Power
- 77.5 · 6th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 23: 2-4-1
- Wins
- 8.7%
- Earnings
- $85,921
- Per start
- $3,735.70
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Alberto Burgos
- Trainer
- Jay Holden 0/24
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 32d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 4 Nov | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance | 6 | 820.0 | Alberto Burgos | 122 |
| Thu 3 Oct | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Alberto Burgos | 119 |
| Mon 16 Sep | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance | 5 | 730.0 | Eduardo Perez | 122 |
| Wed 21 Aug | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Bucchero H. | 9 | 740.0 | Alberto Burgos | 121 |
| Sat 17 Aug | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Eduardo Perez | 119 |
| Wed 31 Jul | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Samuel Bermudez | 119 |
| Tue 16 Jul | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance | 5 | 220.0 | Fernando De La Cruz | 119 |
| Sat 13 Jul | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance | — | not run | Samuel Bermudez | 119 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Elm Street118 lbLVictor Lebron53.9758/123/7
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.1
- Middle
- 4.4
- Finish
- 3.2
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.9
- Career best · average
- 84.0 · 63.0
- Class, average · last
- 75 · 84
- Power
- 78.5 · 3rd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,968.63
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Victor Lebron
- Trainer
- Ethan West 4/14
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 51d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 16 Oct | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Claiming | 2 | 810.0 | Willie Martinez | 119 |
| Wed 18 Sep | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 760.0 | Pablo Morales | 120 |
| Mon 26 Aug | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Claiming | 1 | 770.0 | Pablo Morales | 120 |
| Wed 31 Jul | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 730.0 | Pablo Morales | 120 |
| Thu 4 Jul | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 4 | 620.0 | Pablo Morales | 120 |
| Mon 17 Jun | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 6 | 620.0 | Deshawn Parker | 120 |
| Mon 27 May | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 650.0 | Abel Cedillo | — |
| Sat 4 May | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 5 | 260.0 | Abel Cedillo | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Cooperstown118 lbLAbel Cedillo53.4758/133/8
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.2
- Middle
- 6.6
- Finish
- 5.0
- Post draw
- 7.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.4
- Career best · average
- 82.0 · 67.0
- Class, average · last
- 75 · 84
- Power
- 77.7 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,178.77
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Abel Cedillo
- Trainer
- Tim Girten 2/18
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 51d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 16 Oct | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Claiming | 8 | 750.0 | Pablo Morales | 121 |
| Wed 25 Sep | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Claiming | 1 | 790.0 | Pablo Morales | 118 |
| Tue 3 Sep | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 830.0 | Pablo Morales | 118 |
| Wed 24 Jul | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 740.0 | Angel Stanley | 118 |
| Wed 3 Jul | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 550.0 | Eddie Dominguez | 118 |
| Wed 27 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Walter Rodriguez | 118 |
| Fri 15 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 740.0 | Walter Rodriguez | 118 |
| Wed 24 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 9 | 590.0 | Perry Ouzts | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Where Is Lisa118 lbLWalter Rodriguez52.26820/133/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.5
- Middle
- 4.5
- Finish
- 4.9
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.2
- Career best · average
- 72.0 · 57.0
- Class, average · last
- 68 · 90
- Power
- 66.1 · 11th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Walter Rodriguez
- Trainer
- Jerry Antonuik 2/6
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 49d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 18 Oct | KEENELAND | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 10 | 57.0 | Walter Rodriguez | 118 |
| Thu 3 Oct | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 65.0 | Angel Serpa | 118 |
| Sat 14 Sep | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 71.0 | Angel Serpa | 119 |
| Sat 31 Aug | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 60.0 | Angel Serpa | 118 |
| Wed 7 Aug | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 62.0 | Angel Serpa | 120 |
| Sat 27 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 61.0 | Angel Serpa | 119 |
| Wed 10 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 5 | 46.0 | Albin Jimenez | 120 |
| Fri 28 Jun | BELTERRA PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 5 | 51.0 | Albin Jimenez | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
11Groom Lake121 lbLAlex Achard54.48320/151/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.1
- Middle
- 6.4
- Finish
- 4.6
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.4
- Career best · average
- 83.0 · 70.0
- Class, average · last
- 83 · 90
- Power
- 78.1 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Alex Achard
- Trainer
- Eugene Vosler 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 50d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 14 Nov | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Emmanuel Esquivel | 122 |
| Thu 17 Oct | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 10 | 700.0 | Alex Achard | 122 |
| Mon 30 Sep | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Emmanuel Esquivel | 122 |
| Mon 9 Sep | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 820.0 | Emmanuel Esquivel | 122 |
| Mon 29 Jul | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 770.0 | Emmanuel Esquivel | 122 |
| Tue 2 Jul | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 720.0 | Samuel Bermudez | 122 |
| Wed 12 Jun | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 710.0 | Santo Sanjur | 122 |
| Wed 27 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 8 | 640.0 | Cory Orm | 125 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
12Money Map114 lbLAndres Calleja51.88020/135/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.2
- Middle
- 4.0
- Finish
- 6.9
- Post draw
- 2.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 51.8
- Career best · average
- 79.0 · 48.0
- Class, average · last
- 80 · 87
- Power
- 39.6 · 14th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,397.62
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Andres Calleja
- Trainer
- Nancy Adams 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 114 · 68d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 4 Nov | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Sophie Doyle | 122 |
| Sun 13 Oct | HAWTHORNE | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance | — | not run | Rachel Slevinsky | 115 |
| Sun 29 Sep | HAWTHORNE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 800.0 | Rachel Slevinsky | 115 |
| Sun 15 Sep | HAWTHORNE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 120.0 | Rachel Slevinsky | 115 |
| Sat 31 Aug | SARATOGA | 1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf | Allowance | 8 | 860.0 | — | — |
| Thu 27 Jun | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 930.0 | — | — |
| Sat 27 Apr | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 9 | 890.0 | — | — |
| Sat 30 Mar | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 1030.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
13Storm's Reflection121 lbLConstantino Roman53.38815/134/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.2
- Middle
- 3.3
- Finish
- 5.8
- Post draw
- 7.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.3
- Career best · average
- 78.0 · 72.0
- Class, average · last
- 88 · 93
- Power
- 86.4 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,242.33
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Constantino Roman
- Trainer
- Chris Banks
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 54d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 13 Oct | HAWTHORNE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 86.0 | Ademar Santos | 122 |
| Thu 10 Oct | HAWTHORNE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Ademar Santos | 122 |
| Sun 29 Sep | HAWTHORNE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 65.0 | Alonso Quinonez | 122 |
| Thu 12 Sep | HAWTHORNE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 4 | 76.0 | Rishawn Blanche | 115 |
| Thu 29 Aug | SARATOGA | 1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf | With Anticipation S. | 2 | 900.0 | — | — |
| Thu 29 Aug | HAWTHORNE | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 66.0 | Rishawn Blanche | 115 |
| Sun 11 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 3 | 83.0 | Alonso Quinonez | 124 |
| Sat 10 Aug | SARATOGA | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 930.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate