Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 15Sir Lumpalot | $6.00 | $3.20 | $2.80 |
| 210Toro Forward | — | $9.60 | $7.00 |
| 38Samaritano | — | — | $4.00 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 5-10 | — | $30.30 |
| Trifecta | 5-10-8 | — | $88.55 |
| Superfecta | 5-10-8-6 | — | $101.65 |
Toro Forward——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 9: 2-1-3
- Wins
- 22.2%
- Earnings
- $6,753
- Per start
- $750.33
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Horse
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Toro Forward.
Ballindine——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 23: 1-3-1
- Wins
- 4.3%
- Earnings
- $21,715
- Per start
- $944.13
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Ballindine.
Samaritano——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 21: 3-2-2
- Wins
- 14.3%
- Earnings
- $38,835
- Per start
- $1,849.29
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Samaritano.
Colpo d'Oro——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $14,050.64
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Colpo d'Oro.
Samaritano——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Mare
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Samaritano.
Sir Lumpalot——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Sir Lumpalot.
Colpo d'Oro——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Colpo d'Oro.
1Ballindine111 lbLMelissa Iorio53.2757/232/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.5
- Middle
- 4.2
- Finish
- 3.9
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.2
- Career best · average
- 76.0 · 67.0
- Class, average · last
- 75 · 84
- Power
- 74.5 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Melissa Iorio
- Trainer
- Michael Dini 3/21
- Weight · days off
- 111 · 18d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 24 Nov | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 8 | 840.0 | Samuel Marin | 118 |
| Fri 6 Oct | MEADOWLANDS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 770.0 | Samuel Marin | — |
| Sat 9 Sep | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 770.0 | Melissa Iorio | 113 |
| Sat 12 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 660.0 | Melissa Iorio | 109 |
| Sat 3 Jun | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 8 | 590.0 | Samy Camacho | 118 |
| Sun 16 Apr | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 5 | 700.0 | Angel Rodriguez | 120 |
| Fri 31 Mar | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 760.0 | Angel Rodriguez | — |
| Sat 4 Mar | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 700.0 | Madeline Rowland | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Toes N the Sand118 lbLAdemar Santos53.96815/146/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.1
- Middle
- 5.1
- Finish
- 2.6
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.9
- Career best · average
- 66.0 · 56.0
- Class, average · last
- 68 · 67
- Power
- 62.7 · 12th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Ademar Santos
- Trainer
- Chad Stewart 1/1
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 165d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 30 Jun | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 650.0 | Ademar Santos | 118 |
| Fri 3 Feb | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 4 | 670.0 | Samy Camacho | 120 |
| Fri 30 Dec | TAMPA BAY | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 9 | 410.0 | — | — |
| Fri 25 Nov | TAMPA BAY | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 540.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Hello Sucker118 lbSkyler Spanabel52.37930/162/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 1.3
- Middle
- 2.4
- Finish
- 7.1
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.3
- Career best · average
- 68.0 · 56.0
- Class, average · last
- 79 · 84
- Power
- 59.3 · 13th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 21: 2-2-3
- Wins
- 9.5%
- Earnings
- $39,053
- Per start
- $1,859.67
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Skyler Spanabel
- Trainer
- Monica McGoey 0/4
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 18d
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 24 Nov | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 12 | 620.0 | Skyler Spanabel | 118 |
| Sat 1 Jul | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 50.0 | Angel Morales | 113 |
| Sat 3 Jun | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 460.0 | Angel Morales | 113 |
| Fri 12 May | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 690.0 | Angel Morales | 111 |
| Fri 28 Apr | TAMPA BAY | 1 mile 40 Yards · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 820.0 | Jose Batista | 120 |
| Sat 15 Apr | TAMPA BAY | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 5 | 530.0 | Jose Batista | 120 |
| Fri 31 Mar | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 7 | 560.0 | Madeline Rowland | — |
| Fri 10 Mar | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 680.0 | Madeline Rowland | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Cadillac Justice118 lbLMarcos Meneses52.96912/143/6
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.3
- Middle
- 2.8
- Finish
- 3.8
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.9
- Career best · average
- 79.0 · 51.0
- Class, average · last
- 69 · 79
- Power
- 64.8 · 11th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 22: 2-1-0
- Wins
- 9.1%
- Earnings
- $64,400
- Per start
- $2,927.27
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Marcos Meneses
- Trainer
- Anthony Granitz
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 26d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 24 Nov | DEL MAR | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Allowance | 6 | 800.0 | — | — |
| Thu 16 Nov | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance | 8 | 650.0 | Fernando De La Cruz | 116 |
| Sun 29 Oct | LOS ALAMITOS QUARTER HORSE | 350 Yards · Dirt | Handicap | 4 | 680.0 | — | — |
| Mon 16 Oct | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Fernando De La Cruz | 122 |
| Wed 4 Oct | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 790.0 | Fernando De La Cruz | 122 |
| Sun 10 Sep | DEL MAR | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Allowance | 5 | 950.0 | — | — |
| Wed 6 Sep | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Special Weight | 4 | 640.0 | Fernando De La Cruz | 120 |
| Tue 29 Aug | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 7 | 390.0 | Matilda Burnham | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Sir Lumpalot118 lbLSamy Camacho52.1723/12/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 8.4
- Middle
- 8.7
- Finish
- 3.2
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.1
- Career best · average
- 78.0 · 60.0
- Class, average · last
- 72 · 84
- Power
- 72.5 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,236.71
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Samy Camacho
- Trainer
- Jamie Ness 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 18d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 24 Nov | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 850.0 | Mychel Sanchez | 118 |
| Sat 28 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 770.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 123 |
| Sun 8 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 530.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 123 |
| Sat 16 Sep | PIMLICO | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 750.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 122 |
| Sat 16 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Mychel Sanchez | 121 |
| Sat 26 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 580.0 | Kevin Gomez | — |
| Fri 11 Aug | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 4 | 670.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 121 |
| Fri 21 Oct | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 5 | 470.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Lapinski Union118 lbLEdgar Villasmil52.88012/122/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.2
- Middle
- 4.9
- Finish
- 4.8
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.8
- Career best · average
- 76.0 · 68.0
- Class, average · last
- 80 · 84
- Power
- 73.9 · 6th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Edgar Villasmil
- Trainer
- McLean Robertson 1/2
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 18d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 24 Nov | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 9 | 830.0 | Carol Cedeno | 118 |
| Thu 26 Oct | REMINGTON PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 410.0 | — | — |
| Fri 13 Oct | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 670.0 | Taylor Kingsley | 133 |
| Sat 16 Sep | CANTERBURY PARK | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Maiden Special Weight | — | not run | Harry Hernandez | 119 |
| Thu 10 Aug | CANTERBURY PARK | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Maiden Special Weight | 6 | 670.0 | Eduardo Gallardo | 119 |
| Thu 2 Mar | OAKLAWN PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 8 | 640.0 | Ramsey Zimmerman | 119 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Awesome Honor111 lbLGabriel Maldonado54.37915/127/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.7
- Middle
- 4.2
- Finish
- 5.1
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.3
- Career best · average
- 80.0 · 61.0
- Class, average · last
- 79 · 84
- Power
- 75.7 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,027.59
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Gabriel Maldonado
- Trainer
- Antonio Cordero
- Weight · days off
- 111 · 18d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 24 Nov | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 11 | 780.0 | Christian Dominguez | 118 |
| Tue 26 Sep | MOUNTAINEER | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Jairo Hernandez | 118 |
| Sun 13 Aug | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Claiming | 9 | 670.0 | Angel Morales | 115 |
| Sun 6 Aug | MOUNTAINEER | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Angel Diaz | 116 |
| Sat 1 Jul | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance | 3 | 850.0 | Laureano Sosa | 111 |
| Sat 6 May | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 550.0 | Marcos Meneses | 118 |
| Sun 23 Apr | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | — | 1 | 640.0 | — | — |
| Fri 14 Apr | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 5 | 560.0 | Angel Arroyo | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Samaritano118 lbLJesus Castanon54.5802/123/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.2
- Middle
- 5.1
- Finish
- 4.5
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.5
- Career best · average
- 76.0 · 60.0
- Class, average · last
- 80 · 87
- Power
- 66.4 · 10th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $3,158.60
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jesus Castanon
- Trainer
- Kathleen O'Connell 1/12
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 116d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 18 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 8 | 50.0 | Jairo Rendon | 120 |
| Fri 14 Jul | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 73.0 | Jairo Rendon | 118 |
| Sun 11 Jun | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 4 | 75.0 | Laureano Sosa | 111 |
| Sun 21 May | MONMOUTH PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 66.0 | Laureano Sosa | 111 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Colpo d'Oro118 lbLSamuel Marin53.37315/131/4
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.9
- Middle
- 4.1
- Finish
- 3.9
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.3
- Career best · average
- 25.0 · 28.0
- Class, average · last
- 73 · 79
- Power
- 45.9 · 14th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Samuel Marin
- Trainer
- Derek Ryan 2/7
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 69d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 2 Dec | DEL MAR | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 1050.0 | — | — |
| Fri 3 Nov | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 850.0 | — | — |
| Sun 8 Oct | SANTA ANITA | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 1000.0 | — | — |
| Wed 4 Oct | BELMONT AT THE BIG A | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 10 | 480.0 | Luis Rivera, Jr. | 113 |
| Sun 1 Oct | BELMONT AT THE BIG A | 1 1/2 Miles · Dirt | Joe Hirsch Turf Classic S. | — | not run | Luis Rivera, Jr. | — |
| Mon 4 Sep | DEL MAR | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 910.0 | — | — |
| Sun 3 Sep | MONMOUTH PARK | About 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 650.0 | Samy Camacho | 118 |
| Fri 14 Apr | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 7 | 290.0 | Richard Mitchell | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Toro Forward118 lbLAngel Arroyo50.87310/129/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.2
- Middle
- 4.9
- Finish
- 3.1
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 50.8
- Career best · average
- 77.0 · 50.0
- Class, average · last
- 73 · 84
- Power
- 70.0 · 9th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Angel Arroyo
- Trainer
- Ramon Aguayo 1/4
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 62d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 11 Oct | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 78.0 | Angel Arroyo | 119 |
| Sun 24 Sep | PIMLICO | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 24.0 | Charlie Marquez | 118 |
| Wed 6 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 72.0 | Angel Arroyo | — |
| Sat 26 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 4 | 39.0 | Martin Solis | — |
| Wed 23 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | About 1 Mile 70 Yards · Turf | Maiden Claiming | — | not run | Martin Solis | — |
| Thu 13 Jul | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | — | not run | Raul Mena | 119 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate