Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 14Ronchetti | $2.20 | $2.20 | $2.10 |
| 211Desert Punk | — | $9.80 | $4.20 |
| 310Watts | — | — | $3.40 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 4-11 | — | $9.80 |
| Trifecta | 4-11-10 | — | $44.00 |
| Superfecta | 4-11-10-7 | — | $54.78 |
Claiming6 Furlongs · Dirt · Fast · Purse $13,900
HorsePaceSpeedClassEVWinMLLive odds
1Beach Storm121 lbLMiguel Perez53.56120/157/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.8
- Middle
- 4.2
- Finish
- 5.7
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.5
- Career best · average
- 65.0 · 40.0
- Class, average · last
- 61 · 68
- Power
- 46.2 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Miguel Perez
- Trainer
- Andres Gonzalez 0/3
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 13d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 9 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | 550.0 | Aldo Arboleda | 121 |
| Wed 18 Dec | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | 490.0 | Elvin Gonzalez | 119 |
| Sat 8 Jun | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 80.0 | Enrique Gomez | 121 |
| Sun 7 Apr | SUNLAND PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 400.0 | Alfredo Juarez, Jr. | 121 |
| Fri 29 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 500.0 | Ken Tohill | 121 |
| Fri 23 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Alfredo Juarez, Jr. | 121 |
| Thu 8 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 420.0 | Alejandro Medellin | 121 |
| Fri 2 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 630.0 | Alfredo Juarez, Jr. | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Let Em Rip124 lbLJose Torres55.27120/170/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.5
- Middle
- 4.6
- Finish
- 6.3
- Post draw
- 6.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.2
- Career best · average
- 61.0 · 46.0
- Class, average · last
- 71 · 70
- Power
- 52.4 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jose Torres
- Trainer
- Danny Martinez 0/12
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 43d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 10 Dec | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 51.0 | Jorge Carreno | 121 |
| Tue 5 Nov | ZIA PARK | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 45.0 | Jose Torres | 121 |
| Sun 13 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 57.0 | Jose Torres | — |
| Thu 19 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 48.0 | Jose Torres | — |
| Sat 18 May | SUNRAY PARK | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 39.0 | Jose Torres | — |
| Sat 4 May | SUNRAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 62.0 | Jose Torres | — |
| Fri 29 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 43.0 | Jorge Carreno | 124 |
| Thu 7 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 49.0 | Jorge Carreno | 124 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Taz Marking121 lbLIrwin Rosendo55.5627/223/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.6
- Middle
- 4.1
- Finish
- 3.4
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.5
- Career best · average
- 65.0 · 52.0
- Class, average · last
- 62 · 68
- Power
- 56.5 · 3rd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Irwin Rosendo
- Trainer
- Sherry Armstrong 19/61
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 13d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 9 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 630.0 | Irwin Rosendo | 121 |
| Wed 18 Dec | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 630.0 | Alejandro Medellin | 121 |
| Tue 12 Nov | ZIA PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 600.0 | Alejandro Medellin | 121 |
| Sun 8 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 620.0 | Alejandro Medellin | — |
| Fri 23 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 620.0 | Alejandro Medellin | — |
| Fri 2 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 650.0 | Alfredo Juarez, Jr. | — |
| Sun 19 May | SUNRAY PARK | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 4 | 290.0 | Christian Ramos | — |
| Sat 11 May | SUNRAY PARK | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 550.0 | Daniel Vergara | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Ronchetti121 lbLAlfredo Juarez, Jr.55.1696/51/10
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.9
- Middle
- 4.0
- Finish
- 3.8
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.1
- Career best · average
- 75.0 · 54.0
- Class, average · last
- 69 · 68
- Power
- 66.2 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Alfredo Juarez, Jr.
- Trainer
- Dick Cappellucci 38/145
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 13d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 9 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 74.0 | Christian Ramos | 121 |
| Wed 18 Dec | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 73.0 | Christian Ramos | 119 |
| Mon 25 Nov | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 57.0 | Christian Ramos | 119 |
| Tue 5 Nov | ZIA PARK | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 7 | 42.0 | Felipe Valdez | 119 |
| Sun 15 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Felipe Valdez | — |
| Sat 20 Jul | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 62.0 | Felipe Valdez | — |
| Sat 6 Jul | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Trials | — | not run | Felipe Valdez | — |
| Sun 2 Jun | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 2 | 63.0 | Felipe Valdez | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Celebrity Girl116 lbLRicardo Jaime—5520/1129/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.4
- Middle
- 8.5
- Finish
- 4.6
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- 31.0 · 42.0
- Class, average · last
- 55 · 60
- Power
- 41.2 · 10th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 11: 1-0-0
- Wins
- 9.1%
- Earnings
- $8,383
- Per start
- $762.09
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Ricardo Jaime
- Trainer
- Emilio Cadena, Jr.
- Weight · days off
- 116 · 51d
Mare · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 2 Dec | ZIA PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 11 | 270.0 | Jacquelyn Bobroff | 119 |
| Sat 18 May | SUNRAY PARK | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 400.0 | Christian Ramos | — |
| Sat 20 Apr | SUNRAY PARK | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 530.0 | Christian Ramos | — |
| Fri 22 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | — | not run | Christian Ramos | 121 |
| Thu 14 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 4 | 350.0 | Christian Ramos | 116 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Big D W124 lbEnrique Gomez54.76820/193
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.9
- Middle
- 5.2
- Finish
- 7.0
- Post draw
- 15.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.7
- Career best · average
- 57.0 · 33.0
- Class, average · last
- 68 · 71
- Power
- 38.4 · 11th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 11: 1-0-0
- Wins
- 9.1%
- Earnings
- $35,332
- Per start
- $3,212
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Enrique Gomez
- Trainer
- Danny Morales 0/5
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 58d
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 25 Nov | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 300.0 | Enrique Gomez | 121 |
| Tue 5 Nov | ZIA PARK | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 10 | 200.0 | Rodolfo Guerra | 121 |
| Mon 18 Dec | ZIA PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 10 | 500.0 | Jose Vazquez | 121 |
| Mon 4 Dec | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 11 | 230.0 | Kylee Jordan | 121 |
| Tue 7 Nov | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 570.0 | Kylee Jordan | 121 |
| Fri 18 Aug | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 4 | 260.0 | Daniel Amaya | 121 |
| Sat 29 Jul | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 7 | 180.0 | Oscar Ceballos | 121 |
| Fri 16 Jun | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 6 | 180.0 | Felipe Valdez | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Attila's Boy121 lbLAnthony Medina55.26512/157/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.3
- Middle
- 5.9
- Finish
- 5.9
- Post draw
- 15.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.2
- Career best · average
- 50.0 · 38.0
- Class, average · last
- 65 · 69
- Power
- 45.2 · 9th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,712.65
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Anthony Medina
- Trainer
- Edwin Martinez 0/8
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 64d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 19 Nov | ZIA PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 470.0 | Jorge Carreno | 119 |
| Sun 6 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 600.0 | Jorge Carreno | — |
| Sat 7 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 460.0 | Anthony Medina | — |
| Sat 24 Aug | ELLIS PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Maiden Optional Claiming | 6 | 570.0 | — | — |
| Sat 17 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 370.0 | Irwin Rosendo | — |
| Sat 3 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Christian Ramos | — |
| Sat 27 Jul | SARATOGA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Alfred G. Vanderbilt H. | 1 | 1060.0 | — | — |
| Mon 22 Jul | ELLIS PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Maiden Optional Claiming | 4 | 490.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Hollywood Tiz124 lbJavier Ortega54.47610/144/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.1
- Middle
- 5.8
- Finish
- 5.9
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.4
- Career best · average
- 75.0 · 57.0
- Class, average · last
- 76 · 68
- Power
- 50.4 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,021.68
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Javier Ortega
- Trainer
- Jose Marquez 0/12
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 19d
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 3 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 470.0 | Javier Ortega | 124 |
| Sun 27 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 1 1/4 Miles · Dirt | Claiming Stakes | 7 | 650.0 | Jorge Carreno | — |
| Sun 20 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 450.0 | Julian Zavala | — |
| Sun 29 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 700.0 | Jose Torres | — |
| Sun 15 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 510.0 | Anthony Medina | — |
| Sat 7 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 560.0 | Felipe Valdez | — |
| Sun 19 May | SUNRAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 8 | 620.0 | Jose Torres | — |
| Sun 12 May | SUNRAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 6 | 440.0 | Alejandro Medellin | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Harrys Chance121 lbLLuis Negron54.66612/126/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.2
- Middle
- 4.4
- Finish
- 5.7
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.6
- Career best · average
- 62.0 · 42.0
- Class, average · last
- 66 · 68
- Power
- 50.9 · 6th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $898.81
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Luis Negron
- Trainer
- Jeff Hudson
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 13d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 9 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 580.0 | Miguel Perez | 121 |
| Tue 10 Dec | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 560.0 | Enrique Gomez | 119 |
| Tue 5 Nov | ZIA PARK | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | 310.0 | Christian Ramos | 119 |
| Thu 26 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 7 | 460.0 | Enrique Gomez | — |
| Wed 11 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 470.0 | Luis Rodriguez | — |
| Fri 1 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 6 | 130.0 | Luis Rodriguez | — |
| Fri 21 Jul | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Trial | 8 | 110.0 | Francisco Amparan | — |
| Fri 9 Jun | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Trial | 8 | 80.0 | Casey Chavez | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Watts121 lbLFrancisco Amparan55.5606/115/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.4
- Middle
- 5.0
- Finish
- 5.2
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.5
- Career best · average
- 64.0 · 43.0
- Class, average · last
- 60 · 68
- Power
- 57.3 · 2nd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 25: 2-0-5
- Wins
- 8.0%
- Earnings
- $30,845
- Per start
- $1,233.80
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Francisco Amparan
- Trainer
- Alberto Amparan 8/51
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 13d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 9 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 630.0 | Enrique Gomez | 121 |
| Tue 5 Nov | ZIA PARK | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 440.0 | Francisco Amparan | 121 |
| Fri 25 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 560.0 | Francisco Amparan | — |
| Sat 5 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 510.0 | Francisco Amparan | — |
| Sun 8 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 4 | 440.0 | Francisco Amparan | — |
| Fri 23 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 7 | 220.0 | Francisco Amparan | — |
| Fri 16 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 7 | 280.0 | Francisco Amparan | — |
| Fri 2 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 6 | 410.0 | Francisco Amparan | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
11Desert Punk124 lbLMiguel Fuentes, Jr.54.85910/123/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.8
- Middle
- 5.9
- Finish
- 4.8
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.8
- Career best · average
- 61.0 · 43.0
- Class, average · last
- 59 · 68
- Power
- 54.1 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Miguel Fuentes, Jr.
- Trainer
- Joel Marr 13/60
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 13d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 9 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 56.0 | Miguel Fuentes, Jr. | 124 |
| Wed 18 Dec | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 61.0 | Miguel Fuentes, Jr. | 123 |
| Tue 3 Dec | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 62.0 | Luis Fuentes | 123 |
| Tue 12 Nov | ZIA PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 4 | 55.0 | Miguel Fuentes, Jr. | 123 |
| Fri 15 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 49.0 | Miguel Fuentes, Jr. | 124 |
| Thu 22 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 5 | 33.0 | Luis Rodriguez | 124 |
| Thu 11 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 40.0 | Luis Rodriguez | 121 |
| Tue 19 Dec | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 6 | 41.0 | Luis Rodriguez | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate