Jimmy Drake S.350 Yards · Dirt · Purse $81,000
off7:00 PMHorsePaceSpeedClassEVWinMLLive odds
1Jesses WishJose Enriquez———10/116/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 29: 5-7-3
- Wins
- 17.2%
- Earnings
- $372,721
- Per start
- $12,852.45
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jose Enriquez
- Trainer
- Jose DeHerrera
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 15 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Pepsi Cola S. | 3 | 860.0 | James Flores | 128 |
| Sun 12 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Red Or Green S. | 5 | 810.0 | Jorge Nieto-Saenz | 128 |
| Sun 24 Nov | ZIA PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | New Mexico Classic Quarter Horse Championship S. | — | not run | Christian Ramos | 128 |
| Sun 8 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 440 Yards · Dirt | Maturity | — | not run | James Flores | — |
| Sun 2 Jun | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Jess Burner S. | 7 | 510.0 | Esgar Ramirez | 128 |
| Fri 3 May | SUNRAY PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Jimmy Drake S. | 7 | 940.0 | James Flores | — |
| Sat 17 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Pepsi Cola H. | 1 | 970.0 | James Flores | 125 |
| Sun 14 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Red or Green S. | 2 | 870.0 | James Flores | 128 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Apollitical JackieJose Ortiz———12/1116/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-1-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $89,900
- Per start
- $4,280.95
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jose Ortiz
- Trainer
- Alex Garcia
- Weight · days off
- —
5yo · Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 2 May | SUNRAY PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Jesse Levario | — |
| Sat 19 Apr | TURF PARADISE | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 3 | 890.0 | Jesse Levario | 128 |
| Sun 23 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 5 | 760.0 | Cristian Reyes | 128 |
| Sat 1 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 820.0 | Cristian Reyes | 128 |
| Sat 15 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Cristian Reyes | 128 |
| Sat 11 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 3 | 850.0 | Cristian Reyes | 128 |
| Sat 4 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 330 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Cristian Reyes | 128 |
| Sat 30 Nov | ZIA PARK | 330 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 740.0 | Cristian Reyes | 126 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Just En KingEmilio Tapia———8/112/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Emilio Tapia
- Trainer
- Omar Vargas
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 30 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 870.0 | Emilio Tapia | 128 |
| Fri 21 Feb | SAM HOUSTON | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 710.0 | — | — |
| Sat 15 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Pepsi Cola S. | 7 | 680.0 | Christian Ramos | 128 |
| Sun 12 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Red Or Green S. | 3 | 890.0 | Jose Enriquez | 128 |
| Fri 3 Jan | SAM HOUSTON | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 9 | 490.0 | — | — |
| Sun 15 Dec | ZIA PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | New Mexico Classic Quarter Horse Championship S. | 2 | 960.0 | Jose Enriquez | 128 |
| Sun 24 Nov | ZIA PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | New Mexico Classic Quarter Horse Championship S. | — | not run | Jose Enriquez | 128 |
| Sun 3 Nov | ZIA PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 8 | 650.0 | Jose Enriquez | 128 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Flash DivineLuis Martinez———8/149/6
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $9,011.62
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Luis Martinez
- Trainer
- Tony Sedillo
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 30 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 5 | 82.0 | Luis Martinez | 128 |
| Sat 15 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Pepsi Cola S. | 2 | 86.0 | Luis Martinez | 128 |
| Sun 19 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Optional Claiming | 2 | 83.0 | Luis Martinez | 128 |
| Sun 15 Dec | ZIA PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | New Mexico Classic Quarter Horse Championship S. | — | not run | Luis Martinez | 128 |
| Sun 24 Nov | ZIA PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | New Mexico Classic Quarter Horse Championship S. | — | not run | Luis Martinez | 128 |
| Sun 3 Nov | ZIA PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 87.0 | Luis Martinez | 128 |
| Sun 2 Jun | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Jess Burner S. | — | not run | Luis Martinez | 128 |
| Sun 12 May | SUNRAY PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Optional Claiming | 5 | 83.0 | Luis Martinez | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5My First LuvBrian Barraza———3/129/4
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Brian Barraza
- Trainer
- Joel Gutierrez
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 18 Apr | SUNRAY PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | New Mexico Breeders S. | 1 | 83.0 | Brian Barraza | — |
| Sun 2 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Sunburst S. | 2 | 86.0 | Brian Barraza | 126 |
| Sun 8 Dec | ZIA PARK | 300 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 86.0 | Brian Barraza | 124 |
| Sun 24 Nov | ZIA PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Maiden | 1 | 83.0 | Daniel Torres | 124 |
| Sat 2 Nov | ZIA PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 4 | 68.0 | Daniel Torres | 124 |
| Fri 20 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 400 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 4 | 70.0 | Daniel Torres | — |
| Sun 18 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 300 Yards · Dirt | Maiden | 4 | 71.0 | Daniel Torres | — |
| Fri 26 Jul | ALBUQUERQUE | 350 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 3 | 65.0 | Christian Ramos | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Lookin for CartelJesse Levario———10/119/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $7,085.04
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jesse Levario
- Trainer
- Adrian Alvarez
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 22 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 830.0 | Emilio Tapia | 128 |
| Sat 18 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 790.0 | Jacob Enriquez | 128 |
| Sun 12 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Red Or Green S. | — | not run | Emilio Tapia | 128 |
| Sun 15 Dec | ZIA PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | New Mexico Classic Quarter Horse Championship S. | 3 | 960.0 | Jacob Enriquez | 128 |
| Sun 24 Nov | ZIA PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | New Mexico Classic Quarter Horse Championship S. | — | not run | Jacob Enriquez | 128 |
| Fri 4 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 730.0 | Jose Enriquez | — |
| Sun 4 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 440 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 3 | 810.0 | Raul Valenzuela | — |
| Fri 7 Jun | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 810.0 | Emilio Tapia | 128 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Ez On My MindOmar Iturralde———5/18/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $7,601.77
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Omar Iturralde
- Trainer
- Luis Iturralde
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 29 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 710.0 | Omar Iturralde | 128 |
| Fri 14 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 810.0 | Omar Iturralde | 128 |
| Sun 19 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Lou Wooten And Sydney Valentini S. | 2 | 870.0 | Omar Iturralde | 128 |
| Sun 15 Dec | ZIA PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | New Mexico Classic Distaff S. | — | not run | Omar Iturralde | 128 |
| Sat 2 Nov | ZIA PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 3 | 850.0 | Omar Iturralde | 128 |
| Mon 27 May | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 870 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 720.0 | Gerardo Vera | 128 |
| Fri 10 May | SUNRAY PARK | 870 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 870.0 | Omar Iturralde | — |
| Fri 5 Apr | SUNLAND PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | Optional Claiming | 3 | 680.0 | Omar Iturralde | 128 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Rc Corona KingSergio Dominguez———4/117/9
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Sergio Dominguez
- Trainer
- Gerardo Quinonez
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 30 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | West Texas Maturity | 4 | 790.0 | Sergio Dominguez | 128 |
| Sun 9 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 1 | 830.0 | Sergio Dominguez | 128 |
| Sun 12 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Red Or Green S. | 1 | 930.0 | Luis Martinez | 128 |
| Sun 15 Dec | ZIA PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | New Mexico Classic Quarter Horse Championship S. | 1 | 990.0 | Sergio Dominguez | 128 |
| Sun 24 Nov | ZIA PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | New Mexico Classic Quarter Horse Championship S. | — | not run | Sergio Dominguez | 128 |
| Sat 5 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 440 Yards · Dirt | Downs at Albuquerque Fall Quarter Horse S. | 5 | 830.0 | Daniel Amaya | — |
| Sun 8 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 440 Yards · Dirt | Maturity | 1 | 950.0 | Sergio Dominguez | — |
| Sat 20 Jul | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Zia S. | 2 | 960.0 | Sergio Dominguez | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Big Posies CartelJacob Enriquez———8/147/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $7,381.95
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jacob Enriquez
- Trainer
- James Gonzales III
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 18 Apr | SUNRAY PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 860.0 | Jacob Enriquez | — |
| Sun 23 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 850.0 | Jacob Enriquez | 128 |
| Sat 1 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 4 | 810.0 | Jacob Enriquez | 128 |
| Sat 1 Jun | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 350 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 3 | 790.0 | Jacob Enriquez | 126 |
| Sat 6 Apr | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | NMHBA Quarter Horse S. | 1 | 890.0 | Christian Ramos | 126 |
| Sun 10 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 5 | 750.0 | Manuel Gutierrez | 126 |
| Sun 4 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Shue Fly S. | 2 | 870.0 | Jacob Enriquez | 126 |
| Sat 13 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 3 | 810.0 | Jacob Enriquez | 126 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10J Y JaazielJorge Nieto-Saenz———12/123/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $5,328.40
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jorge Nieto-Saenz
- Trainer
- Fernando Rascon
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 30 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 3 | 850.0 | Jorge Nieto-Saenz | 128 |
| Wed 23 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 3 | 720.0 | Christian Cardenas | — |
| Sat 31 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 920.0 | Christian Cardenas | — |
| Sat 13 Jul | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Christian Cardenas | — |
| Mon 27 May | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 8 | 570.0 | Christian Cardenas | 128 |
| Fri 12 Apr | SUNRAY PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 790.0 | Christian Cardenas | — |
| Sun 28 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 330 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Christian Cardenas | 128 |
| Sat 6 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 330 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 820.0 | Christian Cardenas | 128 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
11Flashin the IvoryJacob Enriquez———20/120
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $5,502.89
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jacob Enriquez
- Trainer
- Julian Honesto
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 22 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allred Brothers S. | 7 | 89.0 | Daniel Torres | 128 |
| Sat 15 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allred Brothers S. | — | not run | Daniel Torres | 128 |
| Sat 15 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Pepsi Cola S. | — | not run | Christian Ramos | 128 |
| Sun 15 Dec | ZIA PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | New Mexico Classic Quarter Horse Championship S. | — | not run | Christian Ramos | 128 |
| Wed 23 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 75.0 | Christian Ramos | — |
| Sun 6 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 400 Yards · Dirt | Optional Claiming | 3 | 80.0 | Sergio Becerra, Jr. | — |
| Sat 21 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 350 Yards · Dirt | Optional Claiming | — | not run | Jacob Enriquez | — |
| Sat 24 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 10 | not run | Jose Enriquez | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
12Chi Chi Jima RaiderOmar Iturralde———20/120
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 27: 6-2-3
- Wins
- 22.2%
- Earnings
- $124,235
- Per start
- $4,601.30
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Omar Iturralde
- Trainer
- Paul Sedillo
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 30 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Optional Claiming | 5 | 830.0 | Omar Iturralde | 128 |
| Sun 19 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Optional Claiming | — | not run | Omar Iturralde | 128 |
| Sun 1 Dec | ZIA PARK | 250 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 780.0 | Omar Iturralde | 124 |
| Sun 3 Nov | ZIA PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 7 | 690.0 | Omar Iturralde | 128 |
| Sat 5 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 440 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 7 | 690.0 | Omar Iturralde | — |
| Sun 15 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 330 Yards · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 850.0 | Omar Iturralde | — |
| Sat 20 Jul | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Zia S. | 8 | 810.0 | Omar Iturralde | — |
| Sun 2 Jun | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Jess Burner S. | 8 | 490.0 | Omar Iturralde | 128 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate