Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 112My Man Chuckles | $31.40 | $16.40 | $7.60 |
| 27General Mach Four | — | $14.40 | $6.60 |
| 32Rainbow Squall | — | — | $3.20 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 12-7 | — | $188.80 |
| Trifecta | 12-7-2 | — | $713.10 |
| Superfecta | 12-7-2-11 | — | $3443.40 |
My Man Chuckles——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for My Man Chuckles.
Curly Creek——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Curly Creek.
Pampers n' Boots——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,935.17
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Pampers n' Boots.
Rainbow Squall——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 31: 3-5-6
- Wins
- 9.7%
- Earnings
- $96,600
- Per start
- $3,116.13
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Rainbow Squall.
Sequentially——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Sequentially.
Professor Cinch——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Professor Cinch.
Southern Keys——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Southern Keys.
General Mach Four——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for General Mach Four.
He Could——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,560.32
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for He Could.
Chief Hosa——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $6,317.92
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Chief Hosa.
1He Could——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,560.32
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 17 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Turf | CLAIMING | 5 | 900.0 | — | — |
| Fri 17 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Turf | CLAIMING | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 16 Feb | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | STARTER ALLOWANCE | — | not run | — | — |
| Sun 29 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Turf | CLAIMING | 6 | 1010.0 | — | — |
| Sun 29 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Turf | CLAIMING | 6 | not run | — | — |
| Sun 8 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 6 | 1010.0 | — | — |
| Sun 8 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 6 | not run | — | — |
| Fri 25 Nov | DEL MAR | 1 Mile · Turf | MAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT | 1 | 930.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Rainbow Squall——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 31: 3-5-6
- Wins
- 9.7%
- Earnings
- $96,600
- Per start
- $3,116.13
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 30 Apr | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Turf | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 2 | 1030.0 | — | — |
| Sun 30 Apr | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Turf | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 2 | not run | — | — |
| Fri 7 Apr | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Turf | CLAIMING | 5 | 760.0 | — | — |
| Fri 7 Apr | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Turf | CLAIMING | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 23 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 5 | 730.0 | — | — |
| Thu 23 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Sun 5 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | 820.0 | — | — |
| Sun 5 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Sequentially——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 20 Apr | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 3 | 900.0 | — | — |
| Thu 20 Apr | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 3 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 23 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 3 | 820.0 | — | — |
| Thu 23 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 3 | not run | — | — |
| Sat 4 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 3 | 880.0 | — | — |
| Sat 4 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 3 | not run | — | — |
| Fri 3 Feb | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | 790.0 | — | — |
| Fri 3 Feb | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Professor Cinch——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 20 Apr | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 2 | 910.0 | — | — |
| Thu 20 Apr | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 2 | not run | — | — |
| Sat 1 Oct | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 9 | 720.0 | — | — |
| Sat 1 Oct | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 9 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 8 Sep | LOS ALAMITOS THOROUGHBRED | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | 880.0 | — | — |
| Thu 8 Sep | LOS ALAMITOS THOROUGHBRED | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | not run | — | — |
| Sat 20 Aug | DEL MAR | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 4 | 760.0 | — | — |
| Sat 20 Aug | DEL MAR | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 4 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7General Mach Four——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 20 Apr | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 4 | 880.0 | — | — |
| Thu 20 Apr | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 4 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 30 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 5 | 830.0 | — | — |
| Thu 30 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 2 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | 890.0 | — | — |
| Thu 2 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | not run | — | — |
| Fri 3 Feb | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | — | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Pampers n' Boots——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,935.17
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 4 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 5 | 760.0 | — | — |
| Sat 4 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Sun 19 Feb | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 2 | 890.0 | — | — |
| Sun 19 Feb | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 2 | not run | — | — |
| Fri 20 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 4 | 810.0 | — | — |
| Fri 20 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | — | not run | — | — |
| Sun 11 Dec | LOS ALAMITOS THOROUGHBRED | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT | 1 | 900.0 | — | — |
| Sun 11 Dec | LOS ALAMITOS THOROUGHBRED | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT | 1 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Southern Keys——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 20 Apr | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 10 | 800.0 | — | — |
| Thu 20 Apr | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 10 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 16 Mar | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | 900.0 | — | — |
| Thu 16 Mar | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | not run | — | — |
| Sun 19 Feb | SANTA ANITA | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 5 | 840.0 | — | — |
| Sun 19 Feb | SANTA ANITA | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 26 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 3 | 840.0 | — | — |
| Thu 26 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 3 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Curly Creek——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 29 Apr | SANTA ANITA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | 780.0 | — | — |
| Sat 29 Apr | SANTA ANITA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
11Chief Hosa——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $6,317.92
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 4 May | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 2 | 950.0 | — | — |
| Thu 4 May | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 2 | not run | — | — |
| Fri 7 Apr | GOLDEN GATE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 8 | 830.0 | — | — |
| Fri 7 Apr | GOLDEN GATE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | — | not run | — | — |
| Fri 24 Mar | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | — | not run | — | — |
| Thu 16 Feb | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 5 | 800.0 | — | — |
| Thu 16 Feb | SANTA ANITA | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Downhill turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Wed 7 Dec | TURF PARADISE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 3 | 750.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
12My Man Chuckles——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 7 May | SANTA ANITA | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 3 | 910.0 | — | — |
| Sun 7 May | SANTA ANITA | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 3 | not run | — | — |
| Sun 2 Apr | SANTA ANITA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | 780.0 | — | — |
| Sun 2 Apr | SANTA ANITA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | not run | — | — |
| Sun 19 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 3 | 570.0 | — | — |
| Sun 19 Mar | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 3 | not run | — | — |
| Mon 20 Feb | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 8 | 420.0 | — | — |
| Mon 20 Feb | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 8 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate