Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 19Amazing Woo | $4.80 | $2.80 | $2.40 |
| 21Competitive Saint | — | $4.20 | $2.60 |
| 310This Run's for You | — | — | $2.60 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 9-1 | $2.00 | $18.60 |
| Trifecta | 9-1-10 | $0.50 | $12.85 |
| Superfecta | 9-1-10-8 | $0.10 | $111.16 |
Claiming5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt · Fast · Purse $18,000
HorsePaceSpeedClassEVWinMLLive odds
1Competitive Saint122 lbLAngel Castillo53.5835/14/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.3
- Middle
- 5.9
- Finish
- 5.2
- Post draw
- 15.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.5
- Career best · average
- 90.0 · 67.0
- Class, average · last
- 83 · 80
- Power
- 68.6 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $5,745.80
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Angel Castillo
- Trainer
- Felix Flores-Coba 3/24
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 30d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 1 Apr | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 73.0 | Angel Castillo | 122 |
| Wed 11 Mar | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 67.0 | Angel Castillo | 122 |
| Wed 18 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 81.0 | Angel Castillo | 122 |
| Thu 8 Jan | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Allowance | 6 | 63.0 | Wilfred Vasquez | 125 |
| Wed 24 Dec | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Allowance | 6 | 60.0 | Wilfred Vasquez | — |
| Mon 1 Dec | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 75.0 | Wilfred Vasquez | 122 |
| Sat 8 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | 28.0 | Yan Rodriguez | 114 |
| Sun 12 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 6 | 80.0 | Jorge Ruiz | 119 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Face Down122 lbLDexter Haddock54.5865/137/4
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.7
- Middle
- 4.4
- Finish
- 5.4
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.5
- Career best · average
- 83.0 · 66.0
- Class, average · last
- 86 · 80
- Power
- 59.3 · 9th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $4,370.36
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Dexter Haddock
- Trainer
- Miguel Rodriguez 6/43
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 30d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 1 Apr | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 40.0 | Yedsit Hazlewood | 117 |
| Wed 11 Mar | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 75.0 | Frankie Pennington | 122 |
| Tue 10 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 68.0 | Frankie Pennington | 122 |
| Tue 3 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 8 | 40.0 | Frankie Pennington | — |
| Sat 6 Dec | TURFWAY PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 68.0 | Irving Moncada | 120 |
| Mon 13 Oct | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 66.0 | Israel Rodriguez | 123 |
| Wed 24 Sep | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 73.0 | Israel Rodriguez | 123 |
| Mon 1 Sep | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Allowance | 4 | 65.0 | Pablo Morales | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Clever Tiger122 lbLYan Rodriguez52.88215/136/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.2
- Middle
- 8.4
- Finish
- 8.0
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.8
- Career best · average
- 63.0 · 25.0
- Class, average · last
- 82 · 79
- Power
- 33.7 · 13th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Yan Rodriguez
- Trainer
- Steven Krebs 0/3
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 60d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 15 Apr | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Yan Rodriguez | 122 |
| Mon 6 Apr | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Luis Rivera | 122 |
| Mon 2 Mar | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | 11.0 | Silvestre Gonzalez | 122 |
| Mon 23 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Silvestre Gonzalez | — |
| Wed 12 Nov | PARX RACING | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 63.0 | Silvestre Gonzalez | 122 |
| Mon 11 Nov | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 11 | not run | Silvestre Gonzalez | 119 |
| Thu 17 Oct | DELAWARE PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 9 | 67.0 | Ubardo Casique | — |
| Thu 10 Oct | DELAWARE PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 87.0 | Felix Astudillo | 115 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Curlins Cruzin117 lbLKendry Rivera52.58420/114
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.4
- Middle
- 4.1
- Finish
- 4.3
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.5
- Career best · average
- 82.0 · 68.0
- Class, average · last
- 84 · 80
- Power
- 64.7 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 36: 4-3-4
- Wins
- 11.1%
- Earnings
- $94,330
- Per start
- $2,620.28
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Kendry Rivera
- Trainer
- Pedro Mercedes 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 117 · 16d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 15 Apr | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 600.0 | Kendry Rivera | 117 |
| Mon 30 Mar | PARX RACING | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 420.0 | Jean Aguilar | 122 |
| Mon 2 Mar | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 670.0 | Dexter Haddock | 122 |
| Mon 23 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Dexter Haddock | — |
| Tue 10 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 10 | 530.0 | Dexter Haddock | 122 |
| Tue 27 Jan | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Dexter Haddock | — |
| Tue 20 Jan | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Dexter Haddock | — |
| Tue 30 Dec | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 680.0 | Joezer Rangel | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Cisco Kid122 lbLMelvis Gonzalez54.0859/212/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.5
- Middle
- 5.0
- Finish
- 5.0
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.0
- Career best · average
- 94.0 · 70.0
- Class, average · last
- 85 · 83
- Power
- 66.8 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-1-1
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $88,824
- Per start
- $3,062.90
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Melvis Gonzalez
- Trainer
- Benjamin Dunn 2/9
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 25d
5yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 6 Apr | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 62.0 | Yedsit Hazlewood | 117 |
| Tue 17 Mar | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 64.0 | Francisco Martinez | 122 |
| Mon 2 Mar | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 62.0 | Melvis Gonzalez | 122 |
| Mon 23 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Melvis Gonzalez | — |
| Tue 3 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Melvis Gonzalez | — |
| Mon 22 Dec | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | 75.0 | Melvis Gonzalez | — |
| Wed 5 Nov | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 63.0 | Melvis Gonzalez | 122 |
| Mon 27 Oct | PARX RACING | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Melvis Gonzalez | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Dither115 lbLNoel Herman53.08520/119/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.0
- Middle
- 2.3
- Finish
- 4.6
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.0
- Career best · average
- 97.0 · 66.0
- Class, average · last
- 85 · 80
- Power
- 63.2 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-0-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Noel Herman
- Trainer
- Jorge Diaz 0/7
- Weight · days off
- 115 · 16d
6yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 15 Apr | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 53.0 | Noel Herman | 115 |
| Thu 5 Mar | PENN NATIONAL | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 47.0 | Jeriel Catala | 117 |
| Wed 18 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 23.0 | Andrew Wolfsont | 122 |
| Mon 9 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Andrew Wolfsont | 122 |
| Mon 2 Feb | PARX RACING | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Andrew Wolfsont | — |
| Mon 26 Jan | PARX RACING | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Andrew Wolfsont | — |
| Thu 15 Jan | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 64.0 | Andrew Wolfsont | 122 |
| Tue 23 Dec | PARX RACING | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 76.0 | Mychel Sanchez | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Awesome for Surescratched—————20/1—
8Chip's Friend122 lbLAdam Bowman51.88120/161/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.5
- Middle
- 4.3
- Finish
- 6.5
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 51.8
- Career best · average
- 57.0 · 53.0
- Class, average · last
- 81 · 81
- Power
- 48.1 · 12th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-0-1
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $154,946
- Per start
- $3,296.72
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Adam Bowman
- Trainer
- Stephen Hamilton
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 106d
6yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 15 Apr | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Ajhari Williams | 122 |
| Thu 15 Jan | PARX RACING | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 28.0 | Jean Aguilar | 122 |
| Tue 30 Dec | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | 55.0 | Dexter Haddock | — |
| Wed 10 Dec | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | 47.0 | Dexter Haddock | 122 |
| Fri 28 Nov | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 54.0 | Julio Correa | 122 |
| Tue 7 Oct | PARX RACING | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 26.0 | Julio Correa | 122 |
| Tue 30 Sep | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 63.0 | Yan Rodriguez | 118 |
| Tue 9 Sep | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 79.0 | Julio Correa | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Amazing Woo122 lbLAbner Adorno54.3884/17/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.3
- Middle
- 3.5
- Finish
- 4.4
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.3
- Career best · average
- 90.0 · 78.0
- Class, average · last
- 88 · 80
- Power
- 83.5 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 1-0-3
- Wins
- 25.0%
- Earnings
- $133,320
- Per start
- $4,761.43
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Abner Adorno
- Trainer
- Kathleen Demasi 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 31d
6yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 31 Mar | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 80.0 | Yan Rodriguez | 122 |
| Tue 10 Mar | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 77.0 | Yan Rodriguez | 122 |
| Wed 18 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Jean Aguilar | 122 |
| Mon 9 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Jean Aguilar | 122 |
| Mon 2 Feb | PARX RACING | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Yan Rodriguez | — |
| Mon 26 Jan | PARX RACING | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Yan Rodriguez | — |
| Mon 5 Jan | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 78.0 | Jean Aguilar | 122 |
| Mon 22 Dec | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 10 | 66.0 | Jean Aguilar | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10This Run's for You122 lbLFrancisco Martinez53.98910/123/7
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.5
- Middle
- 6.0
- Finish
- 5.7
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.9
- Career best · average
- 80.0 · 68.0
- Class, average · last
- 89 · 82
- Power
- 72.8 · 3rd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $3,712.56
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Francisco Martinez
- Trainer
- Josue Arce 2/29
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 17d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 14 Apr | PARX RACING | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 11 | 41.0 | Melvis Gonzalez | 122 |
| Tue 31 Mar | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 73.0 | Melvis Gonzalez | 122 |
| Wed 11 Mar | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 72.0 | Jorge Vargas, Jr. | 122 |
| Wed 18 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 90.0 | Yan Rodriguez | 117 |
| Thu 15 Jan | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 72.0 | Yan Rodriguez | 117 |
| Mon 5 Jan | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 75.0 | Yan Rodriguez | 117 |
| Tue 9 Dec | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 10 | 60.0 | Melvis Gonzalez | 122 |
| Tue 18 Nov | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 79.0 | Melvis Gonzalez | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
11Time Tested122 lbLLuis Ocasio53.77910/130
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.6
- Middle
- 4.1
- Finish
- 5.6
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.7
- Career best · average
- 70.0 · 57.0
- Class, average · last
- 79 · 80
- Power
- 59.0 · 10th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-0-1
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $92,137
- Per start
- $2,879.28
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Luis Ocasio
- Trainer
- Josue Arce 0/13
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 16d
5yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 15 Apr | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 10 | 27.0 | Dalila Rivera | 115 |
| Wed 18 Mar | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 61.0 | Julio Correa | 122 |
| Wed 11 Mar | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 73.0 | Julio Correa | 122 |
| Tue 3 Mar | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 610.0 | Julio Correa | 122 |
| Wed 11 Feb | PARX RACING | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Julio Correa | — |
| Wed 21 Jan | PARX RACING | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Julio Correa | — |
| Wed 14 Jan | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 420.0 | Julio Correa | 122 |
| Mon 5 Jan | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Julio Correa | 125 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
12Omaha Eight122 lbLSilvestre Gonzalez53.28415/158
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.6
- Middle
- 6.2
- Finish
- 5.3
- Post draw
- 3.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.2
- Career best · average
- 85.0 · 66.0
- Class, average · last
- 84 · 79
- Power
- 66.8 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-1-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $88,240
- Per start
- $3,151.43
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Silvestre Gonzalez
- Trainer
- Timothy Shaw 1/11
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 30d
5yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 1 Apr | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 32.0 | Eliseo Ruiz | 122 |
| Tue 10 Feb | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 11 | 40.0 | Eliseo Ruiz | 122 |
| Tue 27 Jan | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Eliseo Ruiz | — |
| Tue 20 Jan | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Eliseo Ruiz | — |
| Tue 30 Dec | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 76.0 | Eliseo Ruiz | — |
| Wed 10 Dec | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 670.0 | Eliseo Ruiz | 122 |
| Mon 24 Nov | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 730.0 | Abner Adorno | 125 |
| Sat 1 Nov | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 720.0 | Andrew Wolfsont | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
13Palm Islandscratched—————7/2—
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate