Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 110Not a Chance | $3.80 | $2.80 | $2.20 |
| 28One Eyed Ray | — | $5.20 | $3.40 |
| 35Chasintheblues | — | — | $4.20 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 10-8 | — | $16.20 |
| Trifecta | 10-8-5 | — | $21.50 |
| Superfecta | 10-8-5-7 | — | $15.93 |
Sergeant J W R——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,887.19
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Sergeant J W R.
Final Encore——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 25: 3-3-4
- Wins
- 12.0%
- Earnings
- $118,235
- Per start
- $4,729.40
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Final Encore.
Not a Chance——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $4,924.81
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Not a Chance.
One Eyed Ray——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 40: 2-7-4
- Wins
- 5.0%
- Earnings
- $119,279
- Per start
- $2,981.98
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for One Eyed Ray.
Unbridled Gift——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 12: 3-2-1
- Wins
- 25.0%
- Earnings
- $79,420
- Per start
- $6,618.33
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Unbridled Gift.
Got It——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Got It.
Chasintheblues——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Chasintheblues.
Unto Thou——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Unto Thou.
Tampa Bay Blue——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Tampa Bay Blue.
Pure Spring————12/164/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Pure Spring.
1Final Encore——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 25: 3-3-4
- Wins
- 12.0%
- Earnings
- $118,235
- Per start
- $4,729.40
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 11 Aug | SARATOGA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 6 | 730.0 | — | — |
| Fri 11 Aug | SARATOGA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 6 | not run | — | — |
| Sat 5 Aug | SUFFOLK DOWNS | About 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 3 | not run | — | — |
| Sat 29 Jul | PARX RACING | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | — | not run | — | — |
| Sun 16 Jul | BELMONT PARK | 6 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 8 | 800.0 | — | — |
| Sun 16 Jul | BELMONT PARK | 6 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 8 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 29 Jun | BELMONT PARK | 6 Furlongs · Turf | STARTER ALLOWANCE | — | not run | — | — |
| Fri 23 Jun | BELMONT PARK | 6 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 1 | 860.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Pure Spring——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 17 Aug | PENN NATIONAL | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 5 | 630.0 | — | — |
| Thu 17 Aug | PENN NATIONAL | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Wed 26 Jul | PENN NATIONAL | 5 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE | 3 | 770.0 | — | — |
| Wed 26 Jul | PENN NATIONAL | 5 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE | 3 | not run | — | — |
| Sat 8 Jul | PENN NATIONAL | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 5 | 700.0 | — | — |
| Sat 8 Jul | PENN NATIONAL | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 29 Jun | PENN NATIONAL | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 2 | 730.0 | — | — |
| Thu 29 Jun | PENN NATIONAL | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 2 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Unbridled Gift——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 12: 3-2-1
- Wins
- 25.0%
- Earnings
- $79,420
- Per start
- $6,618.33
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 13 Jun | PARX RACING | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | ALLOWANCE | 8 | 500.0 | — | — |
| Tue 13 Jun | PARX RACING | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | ALLOWANCE | 8 | not run | — | — |
| Sat 27 May | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 1 | 750.0 | — | — |
| Sat 27 May | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 1 | not run | — | — |
| Mon 1 May | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 7 | 540.0 | — | — |
| Mon 1 May | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 7 | not run | — | — |
| Sun 9 Apr | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 5 | 550.0 | — | — |
| Sun 9 Apr | PARX RACING | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | STARTER ALLOWANCE | 5 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Sergeant J W R——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,887.19
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 7 Aug | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 3 | 680.0 | — | — |
| Mon 7 Aug | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 3 | not run | — | — |
| Sat 29 Jul | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 1 | 740.0 | — | — |
| Sat 29 Jul | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 1 | not run | — | — |
| Mon 17 Jul | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | 740.0 | — | — |
| Mon 17 Jul | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | not run | — | — |
| Mon 3 Jul | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 5 | 570.0 | — | — |
| Mon 3 Jul | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 8 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Chasintheblues——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 25 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 5 | 700.0 | — | — |
| Fri 25 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 6 | not run | — | — |
| Sun 6 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | CLAIMING | 5 | 800.0 | — | — |
| Sun 6 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | CLAIMING | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Sat 5 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | — | not run | — | — |
| Sun 23 Jul | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 6 | 520.0 | — | — |
| Sun 23 Jul | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 6 | not run | — | — |
| Sat 8 Jul | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | WAIVER CLAIMING | 4 | 780.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Tampa Bay Blue——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 3 Sep | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 7 | 70.0 | — | — |
| Sun 3 Sep | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 7 | not run | — | — |
| Sat 12 Aug | PENN NATIONAL | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | — | not run | — | — |
| Sat 29 Jul | PARX RACING | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 5 | 500.0 | — | — |
| Sat 29 Jul | PARX RACING | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 20 Jul | PENN NATIONAL | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 6 | 620.0 | — | — |
| Thu 20 Jul | PENN NATIONAL | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 6 | not run | — | — |
| Fri 7 Jul | PENN NATIONAL | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | — | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Got It——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 24 Aug | PENN NATIONAL | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 1 | 740.0 | — | — |
| Thu 24 Aug | PENN NATIONAL | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 1 | not run | — | — |
| Fri 4 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 2 | 760.0 | — | — |
| Fri 4 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 2 | not run | — | — |
| Mon 17 Jul | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 7 | 600.0 | — | — |
| Mon 17 Jul | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 7 | not run | — | — |
| Fri 28 Apr | KEENELAND | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 7 | 290.0 | — | — |
| Fri 28 Apr | KEENELAND | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 7 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8One Eyed Ray——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 40: 2-7-4
- Wins
- 5.0%
- Earnings
- $119,279
- Per start
- $2,981.98
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 3 Sep | SUFFOLK DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | CLAIMING | 5 | 750.0 | — | — |
| Sun 3 Sep | SUFFOLK DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | CLAIMING | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Fri 4 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 1 | 800.0 | — | — |
| Fri 4 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 Furlongs · Turf | CLAIMING | 1 | not run | — | — |
| Tue 4 Jul | BELMONT PARK | 7 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE | 7 | 840.0 | — | — |
| Tue 4 Jul | BELMONT PARK | 7 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE | 7 | not run | — | — |
| Sun 11 Jun | BELMONT PARK | 7 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE | 7 | 690.0 | — | — |
| Sun 11 Jun | BELMONT PARK | 7 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE | 7 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Unto Thou——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue 5 Sep | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 10 | 530.0 | — | — |
| Tue 5 Sep | PARX RACING | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 10 | not run | — | — |
| Wed 23 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 5 | 640.0 | — | — |
| Wed 23 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 5 | not run | — | — |
| Wed 2 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 1 | 680.0 | — | — |
| Wed 2 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | CLAIMING | 1 | not run | — | — |
| Wed 12 Jul | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Turf | CLAIMING | 10 | 580.0 | — | — |
| Wed 12 Jul | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Turf | CLAIMING | 10 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Not a Chance——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $4,924.81
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 20 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 6 | 690.0 | — | — |
| Sun 20 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 6 | not run | — | — |
| Fri 7 Jul | MONMOUTH PARK | 5 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE | 3 | not run | — | — |
| Sun 18 Jun | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 4 | 970.0 | — | — |
| Sun 18 Jun | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 4 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 25 May | PIMLICO | 5 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | — | not run | — | — |
| Sun 7 May | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 4 | 860.0 | — | — |
| Sun 7 May | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING | 4 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate