PARX RACING · Race 9

(plus Up To 20% Pabf) For Three Year Olds And Upward Which Have Never Won Two Races Other Than Maiden, Claiming, Starter, Or State Bred Or Which Have Never Won Three Races Or Claiming Price $25,000.

←Race 9 of 10→

Result

official
HorseWinPlaceShow
111Cosmic Destiny$62.00$40.80$19.00
28Broadway Bay—$10.40$6.40
35Cousin Stephen——$6.80
PoolFinishOnPaid
Exacta11-8—$725.40
Trifecta11-8-5—$2501.00
Superfecta11-8-5-7—$5508.37
ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING · 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt · Purse $78,000
HorsePaceSpeedClassEVWinMLLive odds
Discreet Lover——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
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Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Discreet Lover.

Wellington Wizard——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
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Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
62: 10-8-11
Wins
16.1%
Earnings
$268,810
Per start
$4,335.65

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—

Gelding

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Wellington Wizard.

Cousin Stephen——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
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Class, average · last
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Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—

Gelding

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Cousin Stephen.

Broadway Bay——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
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Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
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Gelding

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Broadway Bay.

Uncle Hen——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
—
Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
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Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Uncle Hen.

Cinco Y Cinco——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
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Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$3,902.45

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Cinco Y Cinco.

Cosmic Destiny——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$7,620.50

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Cosmic Destiny.

Start Jumping——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
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Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Start Jumping.

Noble Kent——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
—
Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$4,032.12

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Noble Kent.

Gourmet Delight——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
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Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Gourmet Delight.

Ronnie Roam——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
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Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$8,909.73

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Ronnie Roam.

Prado U——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Prado U.

1Ronnie Roam——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
—
Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$8,909.73

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Mon 19 SepPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE11020.0——
Mon 19 SepPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE1not run——
Sat 3 SepPARX RACING1 1/16 Miles · DirtSTAKES5860.0——
Sat 3 SepPARX RACING1 1/16 Miles · DirtSTAKES5not run——
Sun 24 JulPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE1940.0——
Sun 24 JulPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE1not run——
Tue 5 JulPARX RACING6 Furlongs · DirtALLOWANCE6670.0——
Tue 5 JulPARX RACING6 Furlongs · DirtALLOWANCE6not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

2Gourmet Delight——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
—
Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Tue 27 SepPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING21020.0——
Tue 27 SepPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING2not run——
Sun 11 SepMONMOUTH PARK1 1/16 Miles · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING1970.0——
Sun 11 SepMONMOUTH PARK1 1/16 Miles · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING1not run——
Sun 21 AugMONMOUTH PARK1 1/16 Miles · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING2840.0——
Sun 21 AugMONMOUTH PARK1 1/16 Miles · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING2not run——
Fri 19 AugMONMOUTH PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfALLOWANCE—not run——
Sun 31 JulMONMOUTH PARK1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING2960.0——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

3Discreet Lover——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
—
Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sat 24 SepPARX RACING1 1/8 Miles · DirtSTAKES10730.0——
Sat 24 SepPARX RACING1 1/8 Miles · DirtSTAKES10not run——
Mon 5 SepPARX RACING1 1/16 Miles · DirtSTAKES8910.0——
Mon 5 SepPARX RACING1 1/16 Miles · DirtSTAKES8not run——
Tue 2 AugPARX RACING1 1/16 Miles · DirtALLOWANCE1910.0——
Tue 2 AugPARX RACING1 1/16 Miles · DirtALLOWANCE1not run——
Sat 16 JulHORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS1 1/16 Miles · DirtSTAKES8840.0——
Sat 16 JulHORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS1 1/16 Miles · DirtSTAKES8not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

4Start Jumping——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
—
Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Thu 8 SepDELAWARE PARK1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE—not run——
Thu 25 AugDELAWARE PARK1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE1940.0——
Thu 25 AugDELAWARE PARK1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE1not run——
Thu 18 AugDELAWARE PARK1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtSTARTER OPTIONAL CLAIMING11070.0——
Thu 18 AugDELAWARE PARK1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtSTARTER OPTIONAL CLAIMING1not run——
Sun 17 JulPARX RACING7 Furlongs · DirtCLAIMING6630.0——
Sun 17 JulPARX RACING7 Furlongs · DirtCLAIMING6not run——
Sat 21 MayPIMLICO1 1/16 Miles · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE6790.0——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

5Cousin Stephen——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
—
Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—

Gelding

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sun 25 SepPARX RACING6 1/2 Furlongs · DirtCLAIMING1880.0——
Sun 25 SepPARX RACING6 1/2 Furlongs · DirtCLAIMING1not run——
Wed 31 AugSARATOGA1 1/8 Miles · DirtCLAIMING5750.0——
Wed 31 AugSARATOGA1 1/8 Miles · DirtCLAIMING5not run——
Mon 8 AugSARATOGA7 Furlongs · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING6810.0——
Mon 8 AugSARATOGA7 Furlongs · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING6not run——
Fri 31 JulSARATOGA1 1/8 Miles · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING6770.0——
Fri 31 JulSARATOGA1 1/8 Miles · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING6not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

6Noble Kent——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
—
Finish
—
Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$4,032.12

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Mon 5 SepPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING3940.0——
Mon 5 SepPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING3not run——
Sun 31 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING5900.0——
Sun 31 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING5not run——
Sat 9 JulPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING4840.0——
Sat 9 JulPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING4not run——
Mon 30 MaySANTA ANITA7 Furlongs · DirtCLAIMING61000.0——
Mon 30 MaySANTA ANITA7 Furlongs · DirtCLAIMING6not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

7Wellington Wizard——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
—
Finish
—
Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
62: 10-8-11
Wins
16.1%
Earnings
$268,810
Per start
$4,335.65

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—

Gelding

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Tue 27 SepPARX RACING7 Furlongs · DirtCLAIMING3850.0——
Tue 27 SepPARX RACING7 Furlongs · DirtCLAIMING3not run——
Sun 4 SepPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtCLAIMING3920.0——
Sun 4 SepPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtCLAIMING3not run——
Mon 8 AugPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtCLAIMING1920.0——
Mon 8 AugPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtCLAIMING1not run——
Mon 18 JulPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtCLAIMING3870.0——
Mon 18 JulPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtCLAIMING3not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

8Broadway Bay——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
—
Finish
—
Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—

Gelding

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sat 24 SepPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE1990.0——
Sat 24 SepPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE1not run——
Sun 4 SepPARX RACING7 Furlongs · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE8790.0——
Sun 4 SepPARX RACING7 Furlongs · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE8not run——
Tue 26 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtCLAIMING1990.0——
Tue 26 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtCLAIMING1not run——
Sun 17 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · TurfALLOWANCE—not run——
Sat 9 JulPARX RACING6 1/2 Furlongs · DirtCLAIMING4890.0——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

9Cinco Y Cinco——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
—
Finish
—
Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$3,902.45

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sat 24 SepPARX RACING7 Furlongs · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE1840.0——
Sat 24 SepPARX RACING7 Furlongs · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE1not run——
Sun 4 SepPARX RACING7 Furlongs · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE6810.0——
Sun 4 SepPARX RACING7 Furlongs · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE6not run——
Sat 20 AugPENN NATIONAL1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING4880.0——
Sat 20 AugPENN NATIONAL1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING4not run——
Sat 30 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtCLAIMING1880.0——
Sat 30 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtCLAIMING1not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

10Uncle Hen——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
—
Finish
—
Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sat 24 SepPARX RACING1 1/8 Miles · TurfALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING—not run——
Sun 31 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING2930.0——
Sun 31 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING2not run——
Tue 5 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · TurfSTARTER ALLOWANCE11010.0——
Tue 5 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · TurfSTARTER ALLOWANCE1not run——
Sun 22 MayPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE5790.0——
Sun 22 MayPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE5not run——
Sun 1 MayPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtSTARTER ALLOWANCE2750.0——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

11Cosmic Destiny——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
—
Finish
—
Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$7,620.50

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sun 31 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING8760.0——
Sun 31 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING8not run——
Sun 10 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE11030.0——
Sun 10 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE1not run——
Sun 19 JunPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE3960.0——
Sun 19 JunPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE3not run——
Sun 22 MayPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE1960.0——
Sun 22 MayPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE1not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

12Prado U——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
—
Finish
—
Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
—
Trainer
—
Weight · days off
—
Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Mon 5 SepPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING4930.0——
Mon 5 SepPARX RACING1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING4not run——
Sun 31 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING4910.0——
Sun 31 JulPARX RACING1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING4not run——
Sat 2 JulPRAIRIE MEADOWS1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING1920.0——
Sat 2 JulPRAIRIE MEADOWS1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING1not run——
Thu 2 JunPRAIRIE MEADOWS1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING5880.0——
Thu 2 JunPRAIRIE MEADOWS1 Mile · DirtALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING5not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

24 running

pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate