Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 18Nothin Like You | $3.20 | $2.60 | $2.20 |
| 29Lil Pete El Soruyo | — | $8.40 | $4.00 |
| 37Apollitical Payoff | — | — | $4.00 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 8-9 | — | $15.90 |
| Trifecta | 8-9-7 | — | $43.75 |
| Superfecta | 8-9-7-5 | — | $39.42 |
Nothin Like You——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Horse
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Nothin Like You.
Nothin Like You——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $113.33
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Nothin Like You.
Deutsch——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Colt
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Deutsch.
One Fabulous Boy——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $12.50
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for One Fabulous Boy.
Deutsch——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Deutsch.
Nothin Like You——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 2-0-1
- Wins
- 50.0%
- Earnings
- $24,257
- Per start
- $1,865.92
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
4yo · Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Nothin Like You.
Deutsch——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Deutsch.
Apollitical Payoff——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Apollitical Payoff.
Lil Pete El Soruyo——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Lil Pete El Soruyo.
1Deutsch127 lbGiovany Estrada—9120/118/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.1
- Middle
- 3.1
- Finish
- 3.6
- Post draw
- 15.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- 78.0 · 79.0
- Class, average · last
- 91 · 87
- Power
- 80.4 · 9th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $4,723.91
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Giovany Estrada
- Trainer
- Patrick Swan
- Weight · days off
- 127 · 42d
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 19 May | REMINGTON PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 78.0 | Francisco Calderon | 126 |
| Thu 4 May | REMINGTON PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Bryan Candanosa | 126 |
| Thu 23 Mar | REMINGTON PARK | 250 Yards · Dirt | Optional Claiming | 5 | 77.0 | Francisco Calderon | — |
| Sat 16 Apr | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | DERBY | 4 | 92.0 | — | — |
| Sun 3 Apr | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | TRIALS | 2 | 77.0 | — | — |
| Sat 23 Oct | ALBUQUERQUE | 350 Yards · Dirt | STAKES | 8 | 76.0 | — | — |
| Fri 24 Sep | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 350 Yards · Dirt | STAKES | 1 | 78.0 | — | — |
| Sun 15 Aug | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 350 Yards · Dirt | STAKES | 4 | 76.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2One Fabulous Boy127 lbAngel Ramirez—9015/149/4
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.4
- Middle
- 3.5
- Finish
- 3.2
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- 92.0 · 81.0
- Class, average · last
- 90 · 98
- Power
- 85.7 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $9,397.37
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Angel Ramirez
- Trainer
- Edward Hardy 16/103
- Weight · days off
- 127 · 34d
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 27 May | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Boyd Morris Memorial S. | 4 | 860.0 | Angel Ramirez | 126 |
| Sat 13 May | REMINGTON PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 850.0 | Angel Ramirez | 126 |
| Thu 4 May | REMINGTON PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Angel Ramirez | 126 |
| Fri 30 Sep | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Altoona Derby | 6 | 840.0 | — | — |
| Fri 16 Sep | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 1 | 910.0 | — | — |
| Fri 29 Jul | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 330 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 930.0 | — | — |
| Sat 2 Jul | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 330 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 6 | 510.0 | Bonifacio Quiroz | 125 |
| Thu 19 May | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 750.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Apollitical Redflash127 lbJorge Torres—1047/222/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.7
- Middle
- 2.5
- Finish
- 3.3
- Post draw
- 15.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- 94.0 · 94.0
- Class, average · last
- 104 · 113
- Power
- 97.7 · 2nd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jorge Torres
- Trainer
- Renee Wilson 0/20
- Weight · days off
- 127 · 27d
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 3 Jun | REMINGTON PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | Debbie Schauf Remington Park Invitational Championship S. | 4 | 800.0 | Jorge Torres | 126 |
| Sat 6 May | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Leo S. | 4 | 1050.0 | Jorge Torres | 126 |
| Thu 16 Mar | REMINGTON PARK | 330 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 960.0 | Jorge Torres | — |
| Sat 20 Aug | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 440 Yards · Dirt | Bank of America Prairie Meadows Championship Challenge S. | 5 | 930.0 | — | — |
| Sat 30 Apr | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | STAKES | 3 | 1040.0 | — | — |
| Sat 19 Mar | REMINGTON PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | STAKES | 2 | 960.0 | — | — |
| Sun 5 Sep | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 440 Yards · Dirt | DERBY | 6 | 890.0 | — | — |
| Sun 22 Aug | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 440 Yards · Dirt | TRIALS | 1 | 890.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Purty Darn Quick127 lbRamiro Garcia—965/18
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.6
- Middle
- 2.9
- Finish
- 3.4
- Post draw
- 16.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- 88.0 · 85.0
- Class, average · last
- 96 · 98
- Power
- 92.8 · 3rd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $9,985.50
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Ramiro Garcia
- Trainer
- John Hammes 1/8
- Weight · days off
- 127 · 34d
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 27 May | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Boyd Morris Memorial S. | 1 | 970.0 | Ramiro Garcia | 126 |
| Sat 22 Apr | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Dee Raper Sooner State S. | 4 | 820.0 | Ramiro Garcia | — |
| Sat 1 Apr | REMINGTON PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Mr Jet Moore S. | 2 | 850.0 | Ramiro Garcia | — |
| Sat 22 Oct | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 440 Yards · Dirt | Bank of America Challenge Championship S. | 2 | 860.0 | — | — |
| Fri 30 Sep | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 440 Yards · Dirt | Two Rivers S. | 3 | 930.0 | — | — |
| Sat 20 Aug | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 440 Yards · Dirt | Bank of America Prairie Meadows Championship Challenge S. | 3 | 930.0 | — | — |
| Sat 2 Jul | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 300 Yards · Dirt | Prairie Dash S. | 6 | 690.0 | Stormy Smith | 127 |
| Sat 21 May | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Boyd Morris Memorial S. | 4 | 810.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Tommie Eagle127 lbJonathan Dominguez—898/136
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.5
- Middle
- 3.8
- Finish
- 4.0
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- 84.0 · 79.0
- Class, average · last
- 89 · 90
- Power
- 82.8 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jonathan Dominguez
- Trainer
- Renee Wilson
- Weight · days off
- 127 · 29d
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 1 Jun | REMINGTON PARK | 300 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 4 | 700.0 | Jorge Torres | 126 |
| Fri 21 Apr | REMINGTON PARK | 330 Yards · Dirt | Optional Claiming | 1 | 860.0 | Jorge Torres | 126 |
| Thu 6 Apr | SANDY RIDGE AT THE RED MILE | 250 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 840.0 | Jorge Torres | — |
| Fri 24 Mar | REMINGTON PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 3 | 840.0 | Jorge Torres | — |
| Sat 29 Oct | LONE STAR | 440 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 6 | 850.0 | — | — |
| Sat 27 Aug | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Derby | 3 | 790.0 | Ricky Ramirez | 126 |
| Sat 13 Aug | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 1 | 860.0 | — | — |
| Sun 10 Jul | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 440 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 4 | 740.0 | Raul Ramirez, Jr. | 126 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Valiant Miss Priss127 lbCristian Esqueda—896/114
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.9
- Middle
- 2.5
- Finish
- 2.4
- Post draw
- 14.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- 87.0 · 82.0
- Class, average · last
- 89 · 93
- Power
- 85.4 · 6th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 12: 5-2-1
- Wins
- 41.7%
- Earnings
- $137,058
- Per start
- $11,421.50
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Cristian Esqueda
- Trainer
- Stacy Charette-Hill 42/186
- Weight · days off
- 127 · 40d
Mare
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 21 May | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 830.0 | Cristian Esqueda | 126 |
| Fri 14 Apr | REMINGTON PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 7 | 660.0 | Cristian Esqueda | 126 |
| Fri 24 Mar | REMINGTON PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 870.0 | Cristian Esqueda | — |
| Sat 22 Oct | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Q-Racing Video Distaff Challenge Championship S. | 1 | 900.0 | — | — |
| Sat 20 Aug | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Q-Racing Video Prairie Meadows Distaff Challenge S. | 1 | 910.0 | — | — |
| Thu 14 Jul | CANTERBURY PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Canterbury Park Distaff Challenge S. | 6 | 760.0 | — | — |
| Thu 12 May | REMINGTON PARK | — | — | 1 | 860.0 | — | — |
| Thu 7 Apr | REMINGTON PARK | 300 Yards · Dirt | ALLOWANCE | 2 | 810.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Apollitical Payoff127 lbArmando Alvidrez—943/137/4
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.8
- Middle
- 3.0
- Finish
- 2.7
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- 94.0 · 84.0
- Class, average · last
- 94 · 98
- Power
- 89.3 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Armando Alvidrez
- Trainer
- Jason Olmstead 9/81
- Weight · days off
- 127 · 34d
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 27 May | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Boyd Morris Memorial S. | 2 | 920.0 | Edwin Escobedo | 126 |
| Sat 22 Apr | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Dee Raper Sooner State S. | 2 | 870.0 | Edwin Escobedo | — |
| Sat 25 Mar | REMINGTON PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Eastex S. | 2 | 870.0 | Edwin Escobedo | — |
| Fri 10 Mar | REMINGTON PARK | 250 Yards · Dirt | Mighty Deck Three S. | 1 | 920.0 | Edwin Escobedo | 126 |
| Tue 15 Nov | WILL ROGERS | 350 Yards · Dirt | Derby | 2 | 900.0 | — | — |
| Mon 31 Oct | WILL ROGERS | 350 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 2 | 940.0 | Edwin Escobedo | 124 |
| Tue 27 Sep | WILL ROGERS | 350 Yards · Dirt | Optional Claiming | 1 | 740.0 | Edwin Escobedo | 124 |
| Sun 21 Aug | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 440 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 4 | 740.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Nothin Like You127 lbStormy Smith—945/23/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.8
- Middle
- 2.6
- Finish
- 1.7
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- 90.0 · 90.0
- Class, average · last
- 94 · 113
- Power
- 98.4 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Stormy Smith
- Trainer
- John Hammes 5/30
- Weight · days off
- 127 · 27d
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 3 Jun | REMINGTON PARK | 440 Yards · Dirt | Debbie Schauf Remington Park Invitational Championship S. | 2 | 82.0 | Stormy Smith | 126 |
| Sat 6 May | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Leo S. | 2 | 107.0 | Stormy Smith | 126 |
| Sat 22 Apr | REMINGTON PARK | 300 Yards · Dirt | Bob Moore Memorial S. | 2 | 95.0 | Stormy Smith | — |
| Sat 22 Oct | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Derby | 1 | 96.0 | — | — |
| Fri 30 Sep | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Altoona Derby | 3 | 86.0 | — | — |
| Fri 16 Sep | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 1 | 90.0 | — | — |
| Sun 21 Aug | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Adequan Prairie Meadows Derby Challenge S. | 1 | 89.0 | — | — |
| Sun 10 Jul | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 350 Yards · Dirt | Prairie Meadows Gold Derby | 1 | 90.0 | Stormy Smith | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Lil Pete El Soruyo127 lbAlfredo Triana, Jr.—8210/143/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.4
- Middle
- 2.9
- Finish
- 1.8
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- 84.0 · 79.0
- Class, average · last
- 82 · 85
- Power
- 81.1 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Alfredo Triana, Jr.
- Trainer
- Stacy Belt 0/3
- Weight · days off
- 127 · 13d
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 17 Jun | FAIR MEADOWS | 350 Yards · Dirt | Golden Driller S. | 2 | 840.0 | Andrew Samaniego | — |
| Fri 19 May | REMINGTON PARK | 350 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 800.0 | Ramiro Garcia | 126 |
| Sun 13 Nov | WILL ROGERS | 440 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 810.0 | — | — |
| Tue 1 Nov | WILL ROGERS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 740.0 | Andrew Samaniego | 124 |
| Sat 1 Oct | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Polk County Derby | 3 | 800.0 | — | — |
| Sat 17 Sep | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 2 | 760.0 | — | — |
| Fri 2 Sep | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 330 Yards · Dirt | Maiden | 1 | 840.0 | — | — |
| Sat 25 Jun | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 350 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 7 | 810.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate