Sports from the Basement

Result

official

Horse	Win	Place	Show
16Juulstone	$18.60	$5.80	$3.60
213Battle of Normandy	—	$2.60	$2.20
35Evan Harlan	—	—	$2.60

Pool	Finish	On	Paid
Exacta	6-13	—	$20.10
Trifecta	6-13-5	—	$28.55
Superfecta	6-13-5-11	—	$73.67

HorsePaceSpeedClassEVWinMLLive odds

Battle of Normandy——————

Probability

Pace

Early: —
Middle: —
Finish: —
Post draw: —

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: —
Career best · average: —
Class, average · last: —
Power: —

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: not reported
Wins: —
Earnings: not reported
Per start: $5,966.77

Connections and form

Jockey: —
Trainer: —
Weight · days off: —

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Battle of Normandy.

Battle of Normandy——————

Probability

Pace

Early: —
Middle: —
Finish: —
Post draw: —

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: —
Career best · average: —
Class, average · last: —
Power: —

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: 10: 1-1-3
Wins: 10.0%
Earnings: $14,733
Per start: $1,473.30

Connections and form

Jockey: —
Trainer: —
Weight · days off: —

Colt

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Battle of Normandy.

Twist 'n Twirl——————

Probability

Pace

Early: —
Middle: —
Finish: —
Post draw: —

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: —
Career best · average: —
Class, average · last: —
Power: —

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: not reported
Wins: —
Earnings: not reported
Per start: $3,144.33

Connections and form

Jockey: —
Trainer: —
Weight · days off: —

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Twist 'n Twirl.

Twist 'n Twirl——————

Probability

Pace

Early: —
Middle: —
Finish: —
Post draw: —

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: —
Career best · average: —
Class, average · last: —
Power: —

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: not reported
Wins: —
Earnings: not reported
Per start: not reported

Connections and form

Jockey: —
Trainer: —
Weight · days off: —

Gelding

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Twist 'n Twirl.

Evan Harlan——————

Probability

Pace

Early: —
Middle: —
Finish: —
Post draw: —

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: —
Career best · average: —
Class, average · last: —
Power: —

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: not reported
Wins: —
Earnings: not reported
Per start: not reported

Connections and form

Jockey: —
Trainer: —
Weight · days off: —

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Evan Harlan.

1O Captainscratched—————5/1—

2Twist 'n Twirl314d off123 lbLJorge Ruiz53.88215/136/1

Probability

Pace

Early: 3.9
Middle: 4.3
Finish: 3.3
Post draw: 25.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: 53.8
Career best · average: 84.0 · 73.0
Class, average · last: 82 · 93
Power: 73.5 · 12th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: 4: 0-0-0
Wins: 0.0%
Earnings: $98,361
Per start: $3,783.12

Connections and form

Jockey: Jorge Ruiz
Trainer: H. Motion 8/39
Weight · days off: 123 · 314d

7yo · Gelding · L

Past performances

7 prior starts, most recent first
Date	Track	Distance · surface	Class	Finish	Speed	Jockey	Wt
Fri 8 Jul	LAUREL PARK	1 1/8 Miles · Turf	Allowance	6	84.0	—	—
Sat 4 Jun	LAUREL PARK	1 Mile · Turf	Allowance	4	71.0	—	—
Sun 1 May	LAUREL PARK	1 Mile · Turf	MAIDEN CLAIMING	1	74.0	—	—
Mon 20 Dec	PARX RACING	1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt	MAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT	3	64.0	—	—
Sun 31 Oct	LAUREL PARK	1 1/8 Miles · Dirt	MAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT	3	71.0	—	—
Fri 24 Sep	LAUREL PARK	6 Furlongs · Dirt	WAIVER MAIDEN CLAIMING	3	58.0	—	—
Sat 14 Aug	PIMLICO	5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt	WAIVER MAIDEN CLAIMING	3	59.0	—	—

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

3Prowling Tiger115 lbLFlavien Prat53.07820/123/3

Probability

Pace

Early: 2.8
Middle: 2.8
Finish: 3.3
Post draw: 7.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: 53.0
Career best · average: 89.0 · 72.0
Class, average · last: 78 · 88
Power: 96.5 · 2nd in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: 27: 3-5-0
Wins: 11.1%
Earnings: $108,636
Per start: $4,023.56

Connections and form

Jockey: Flavien Prat
Trainer: Arnaud Delacour 2/2
Weight · days off: 115 · 55d

Gelding · L

Past performances

4 prior starts, most recent first
Date	Track	Distance · surface	Class	Finish	Speed	Jockey	Wt
Fri 24 Mar	TAMPA BAY	1 1/16 Miles · Turf	Allowance Optional Claiming	2	940.0	Daniel Centeno	118
Sun 8 Jan	TAMPA BAY	1 Mile · Turf	Allowance Optional Claiming	7	670.0	—	—
Sun 13 Nov	LAUREL PARK	1 1/8 Miles · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	1	740.0	Jorge Ruiz	122
Sun 23 Oct	LAUREL PARK	1 1/16 Miles · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	2	540.0	—	—

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

4Monjid123 lbLFlorent Geroux50.48612/147/6

Probability

Pace

Early: 2.8
Middle: 3.1
Finish: 2.7
Post draw: 11.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: 50.4
Career best · average: 82.0 · 72.0
Class, average · last: 86 · 89
Power: 86.3 · 5th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: not reported
Wins: —
Earnings: not reported
Per start: $8,098

Connections and form

Jockey: Florent Geroux
Trainer: Andrew McKeever 1/1
Weight · days off: 123 · 21d

Past performances

7 prior starts, most recent first
Date	Track	Distance · surface	Class	Finish	Speed	Jockey	Wt
Thu 27 Apr	KEENELAND	1 3/16 Miles · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	1	880.0	Florent Geroux	126
Wed 1 Mar	FAIR GROUNDS	About 1 1/16 Miles · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	3	750.0	James Graham	—
Sun 22 Jan	FAIR GROUNDS	About 1 Mile · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	3	730.0	—	—
Wed 30 Nov	TURFWAY PARK	1 1/4 Miles · All Weather Track	Maiden Special Weight	7	760.0	—	—
Sat 22 Oct	KEENELAND	1 1/8 Miles · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	2	820.0	—	—
Sat 8 Oct	KEENELAND	About 7 Furlongs · Dirt	Maiden Special Weight	9	400.0	Vincent Cheminaud	121
Sat 3 Sep	KENTUCKY DOWNS	6 1/2 Furlongs · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	6	830.0	—	—

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

5Evan Harlan123 lbLJoel Rosario54.5917/27/2

Probability

Pace

Early: 2.2
Middle: 1.9
Finish: 3.6
Post draw: 11.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: 54.5
Career best · average: 96.0 · 89.0
Class, average · last: 91 · 100
Power: 99.7 · 1st in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: 20: 3-4-4
Wins: 15.0%
Earnings: $269,391
Per start: $13,469.55

Connections and form

Jockey: Joel Rosario
Trainer: H. Motion 5/25
Weight · days off: 123 · 29d

Gelding · L

Past performances

8 prior starts, most recent first
Date	Track	Distance · surface	Class	Finish	Speed	Jockey	Wt
Wed 19 Apr	KEENELAND	1 1/2 Miles · Turf	Allowance	4	810.0	Joel Rosario	118
Sun 5 Feb	SANTA ANITA	1 1/4 Miles · Downhill turf	San Marcos S.	9	990.0	Edwin Maldonado	120
Mon 2 Jan	SANTA ANITA	1 Mile · Turf	Allowance	3	1010.0	—	—
Sat 3 Dec	DEL MAR	1 1/8 Miles · Turf	Hollywood Derby	7	960.0	—	—
Sat 15 Oct	BELMONT AT THE BIG A	1 1/16 Miles · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	1	930.0	—	—
Wed 13 Jul	COLONIAL DOWNS	1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf	Maiden Special Weight	2	820.0	Jorge Ruiz	—
Sat 21 May	PIMLICO	1 1/16 Miles · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	2	830.0	—	—
Sun 10 Apr	AQUEDUCT	6 Furlongs · Outer turf	MAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT	2	770.0	—	—

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

6Juulstone123 lbLLuis Saez54.69310/125/3

Probability

Pace

Early: 4.2
Middle: 4.5
Finish: 4.4
Post draw: 3.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: 54.6
Career best · average: 92.0 · 79.0
Class, average · last: 93 · 103
Power: 81.1 · 8th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: not reported
Wins: —
Earnings: not reported
Per start: not reported

Connections and form

Jockey: Luis Saez
Trainer: Michael Maker 30/140
Weight · days off: 123 · 22d

Past performances

8 prior starts, most recent first
Date	Track	Distance · surface	Class	Finish	Speed	Jockey	Wt
Wed 26 Apr	KEENELAND	1 Mile · Turf	Allowance	5	890.0	Luis Saez	118
Sat 1 Apr	TURFWAY PARK	1 Mile · All Weather Track	Claiming	5	740.0	Gerardo Corrales	122
Sat 18 Feb	TURFWAY PARK	1 Mile · All Weather Track	Claiming	5	750.0	Gerardo Corrales	124
Sat 11 Feb	TURFWAY PARK	6 Furlongs · All Weather Track	Claiming	5	670.0	Fernando De La Cruz	123
Fri 15 Jul	SARATOGA	1 1/16 Miles · Turf	Claiming	1	920.0	—	—
Thu 16 Jun	BELMONT PARK	7 Furlongs · Turf	Claiming	3	790.0	—	—
Fri 27 May	BELMONT PARK	6 Furlongs · Inner turf	Claiming	5	770.0	Irad Ortiz, Jr.	123
Thu 5 May	BELMONT PARK	6 Furlongs · Inner turf	ALLOWANCE	7	820.0	Dylan Davis	—

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

7Collection Day115 lbLJaime Rodriguez52.57250/175/1

Probability

Pace

Early: 5.3
Middle: 5.0
Finish: 3.3
Post draw: 4.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: 52.5
Career best · average: 57.0 · 67.0
Class, average · last: 72 · 80
Power: 82.9 · 6th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: not reported
Wins: —
Earnings: not reported
Per start: not reported

Connections and form

Jockey: Jaime Rodriguez
Trainer: Michael Gorham 17/80
Weight · days off: 115 · 68d

Past performances

8 prior starts, most recent first
Date	Track	Distance · surface	Class	Finish	Speed	Jockey	Wt
Sun 23 Apr	LAUREL PARK	1 Mile · Dirt	Allowance Optional Claiming	—	not run	Daniel Centeno	—
Sat 11 Mar	LAUREL PARK	1 Mile · Dirt	Allowance Optional Claiming	4	80.0	Jean Alvelo	121
Sat 11 Feb	LAUREL PARK	1 1/8 Miles · Dirt	Claiming	2	63.0	Jevian Toledo	124
Sun 22 Jan	LAUREL PARK	1 1/16 Miles · Dirt	—	1	77.0	—	—
Sun 27 Nov	LAUREL PARK	1 Mile · Dirt	Maiden Claiming	1	73.0	—	—
Sun 13 Nov	LAUREL PARK	1 1/8 Miles · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	5	57.0	Sheldon Russell	122
Thu 29 Sep	DELAWARE PARK	7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	3	53.0	—	—
Fri 9 Sep	DELAWARE PARK	6 Furlongs · Dirt	Maiden Special Weight	4	69.0	Jeremy Rose	119

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

8Tiz a Giant123 lbLVictor Carrasco53.28412/120/1

Probability

Pace

Early: 4.8
Middle: 4.4
Finish: 3.0
Post draw: 9.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: 53.2
Career best · average: 85.0 · 77.0
Class, average · last: 84 · 89
Power: 89.4 · 4th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: not reported
Wins: —
Earnings: not reported
Per start: not reported

Connections and form

Jockey: Victor Carrasco
Trainer: Michael Trombetta 14/98
Weight · days off: 123 · 168d

Past performances

8 prior starts, most recent first
Date	Track	Distance · surface	Class	Finish	Speed	Jockey	Wt
Thu 1 Dec	GULFSTREAM PARK	1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track	Allowance Optional Claiming	4	890.0	—	—
Fri 28 Oct	GULFSTREAM PARK	1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track	Maiden Optional Claiming	1	810.0	—	—
Fri 2 Sep	SARATOGA	1 3/8 Miles · Inner turf	Maiden Special Weight	4	820.0	—	—
Wed 10 Aug	SARATOGA	1 3/16 Miles · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	2	850.0	—	—
Thu 14 Jul	SARATOGA	1 3/8 Miles · Inner turf	Maiden Special Weight	2	870.0	—	—
Tue 28 Jun	PARX RACING	1 1/16 Miles · Turf	Maiden Special Weight	2	770.0	—	—
Tue 17 May	PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS	1 Mile · All Weather Track	Maiden Special Weight	2	830.0	—	—
Sat 12 Mar	TURFWAY PARK	—	—	4	760.0	—	—

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

9Benny Havens123 lbLXavier Perez54.29120/154/1

Probability

Pace

Early: 5.0
Middle: 4.8
Finish: 4.4
Post draw: 10.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: 54.2
Career best · average: 89.0 · 85.0
Class, average · last: 91 · 88
Power: 82.4 · 7th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: 4: 0-0-0
Wins: 0.0%
Earnings: $163,071
Per start: $3,327.98

Connections and form

Jockey: Xavier Perez
Trainer: Anthony Aguirre, Jr. 0/18
Weight · days off: 123 · 13d

9yo · Gelding · L

Past performances

8 prior starts, most recent first
Date	Track	Distance · surface	Class	Finish	Speed	Jockey	Wt
Fri 5 May	LAUREL PARK	1 1/16 Miles · Turf	Allowance	6	770.0	Horacio Karamanos	123
Sat 22 Apr	LAUREL PARK	5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf	Allowance	—	not run	Jean Alvelo	—
Sat 22 Oct	LAUREL PARK	1 1/8 Miles · Turf	Maryland Million Turf S.	11	810.0	—	—
Sun 25 Sep	PIMLICO	1 1/16 Miles · Turf	Allowance	4	890.0	Xavier Perez	123
Fri 9 Sep	PIMLICO	1 Mile · Turf	Allowance	3	960.0	Xavier Perez	123
Sat 20 Aug	LAUREL PARK	1 1/16 Miles · Turf	Allowance	4	850.0	—	—
Fri 5 Aug	LAUREL PARK	1 Mile · Turf	Allowance	5	870.0	Xavier Perez	123
Sun 17 Jul	LAUREL PARK	1 1/16 Miles · Turf	Allowance	2	840.0	—	—

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

10The Happy Giant253d off123 lbCarol Cedeno52.68720/167/1

Probability

Pace

Early: 8.2
Middle: 8.0
Finish: 4.5
Post draw: 12.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: 52.6
Career best · average: 84.0 · 77.0
Class, average · last: 87 · 93
Power: 74.5 · 11th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: not reported
Wins: —
Earnings: not reported
Per start: not reported

Connections and form

Jockey: Carol Cedeno
Trainer: Allison Fulmer
Weight · days off: 123 · 253d

Past performances

8 prior starts, most recent first
Date	Track	Distance · surface	Class	Finish	Speed	Jockey	Wt
Wed 7 Sep	COLONIAL DOWNS	1 3/16 Miles · Outer turf	Allowance Optional Claiming	5	840.0	—	—
Tue 16 Aug	COLONIAL DOWNS	1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf	Allowance	4	820.0	—	—
Wed 27 Jul	COLONIAL DOWNS	About 1 1/2 Miles · Inner turf	Colonial Cup S.	8	1000.0	—	—
Mon 11 Jul	COLONIAL DOWNS	1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf	Maiden Special Weight	1	810.0	Forest Boyce	124
Tue 7 Jun	MOUNTAINEER	1 Mile · Dirt	Maiden Special Weight	4	580.0	Angel Diaz	123
Sat 16 Apr	TRYON	2 Miles · Hurdle	—	3	not run	—	—
Sat 2 Apr	CAMDEN	2 1/8 Miles · Hurdle	STAKES	6	not run	—	—
Sun 13 Feb	TAMPA BAY	1 3/8 Miles · Turf	MAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT	6	660.0	—	—

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

11Awesome Man123 lbLForest Boyce52.78915/158/1

Probability

Pace

Early: 6.5
Middle: 6.1
Finish: 4.6
Post draw: 3.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: 52.7
Career best · average: — · 78.0
Class, average · last: 89 · 96
Power: 71.8 · 13th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: not reported
Wins: —
Earnings: not reported
Per start: not reported

Connections and form

Jockey: Forest Boyce
Trainer: Todd Wyatt 1/3
Weight · days off: 123 · 153d

Gelding · L

Past performances

8 prior starts, most recent first
Date	Track	Distance · surface	Class	Finish	Speed	Jockey	Wt
Sat 29 Apr	CHARLOTTE	1 1/4 Miles · Turf	Allowance	—	not run	Sean McDermott	—
Fri 16 Dec	LAUREL PARK	1 1/16 Miles · Dirt	Allowance	3	930.0	—	—
Thu 24 Nov	LAUREL PARK	1 1/16 Miles · Dirt	Claiming	3	820.0	—	—
Sun 25 Sep	PIMLICO	1 1/16 Miles · Dirt	Allowance	7	730.0	Horacio Karamanos	119
Sun 7 Aug	LAUREL PARK	1 1/8 Miles · Dirt	Allowance	3	860.0	Horacio Karamanos	118
Fri 10 Jun	LAUREL PARK	1 1/8 Miles · Dirt	Maiden Special Weight	1	850.0	Horacio Karamanos	119
Sat 14 May	PIMLICO	1 1/16 Miles · Dirt	—	2	840.0	—	—
Sat 26 Mar	LAUREL PARK	7 Furlongs · Dirt	MAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT	8	480.0	—	—

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

12Ice Cold Frosty115 lbLJevian Toledo54.17930/152/1

Probability

Pace

Early: 4.8
Middle: 4.9
Finish: 3.9
Post draw: 5.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: 54.1
Career best · average: — · 64.0
Class, average · last: 79 · 84
Power: 51.9 · 14th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: 15: 2-4-1
Wins: 13.3%
Earnings: $76,889
Per start: $5,125.93

Connections and form

Jockey: Jevian Toledo
Trainer: Brittany Russell 55/198
Weight · days off: 115 · 95d

Gelding · L

Past performances

6 prior starts, most recent first
Date	Track	Distance · surface	Class	Finish	Speed	Jockey	Wt
Sun 23 Apr	LAUREL PARK	1 Mile · Dirt	Allowance Optional Claiming	—	not run	Luis Rivera, Jr.	—
Sat 11 Mar	LAUREL PARK	1 Mile · Dirt	Allowance Optional Claiming	—	not run	Luis Rivera, Jr.	114
Sun 12 Feb	LAUREL PARK	6 Furlongs · Dirt	Allowance Optional Claiming	5	580.0	Bryson Butterfly	121
Sat 31 Dec	LAUREL PARK	6 Furlongs · Dirt	Allowance Optional Claiming	5	690.0	—	—
Sat 9 Jul	LAUREL PARK	6 Furlongs · Dirt	Maiden Special Weight	1	630.0	Jevian Toledo	120
Sat 25 Jun	LAUREL PARK	5 Furlongs · Dirt	Maiden Special Weight	2	620.0	—	—

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

13Battle of Normandy115 lbLIrad Ortiz, Jr.54.1945/29/10

Probability

Pace

Early: 5.2
Middle: 5.0
Finish: 2.9
Post draw: 4.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4: 54.1
Career best · average: 99.0 · 85.0
Class, average · last: 94 · 100
Power: 91.1 · 3rd in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record: not reported
Wins: —
Earnings: not reported
Per start: not reported

Connections and form

Jockey: Irad Ortiz, Jr.
Trainer: Claude McGaughey III 8/22
Weight · days off: 115 · 27d

Horse · L

Past performances

6 prior starts, most recent first
Date	Track	Distance · surface	Class	Finish	Speed	Jockey	Wt
Fri 21 Apr	KEENELAND	1 1/8 Miles · Turf	Allowance	2	960.0	Irad Ortiz, Jr.	118
Sat 15 Apr	KEENELAND	1 1/8 Miles · Turf	Allowance	—	not run	Lanfranco Dettori	118
Fri 4 Nov	KEENELAND	1 Mile · Turf	Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf	5	1000.0	—	—
Sun 2 Oct	BELMONT AT THE BIG A	1 1/16 Miles · Outer turf	Pilgrim S.	7	710.0	—	—
Wed 31 Aug	SARATOGA	1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf	With Anticipation S.	2	780.0	—	—
Sat 6 Aug	SARATOGA	1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf	Maiden Special Weight	1	770.0	Kendrick Carmouche	119

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

14Crisperscratched—————12/1—

pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate