Dulce Kiara——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 3: 0-0-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $2,220
- Per start
- $740
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Dulce Kiara.
Sister Supream——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $534.60
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Sister Supream.
Bound by Destiny——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $11,593.37
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Bound by Destiny.
1Sister SupreamJaime Rodriguez—54.1—8/112/7
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.1
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jaime Rodriguez
- Trainer
- Jamie Ness
- Weight · days off
- —
Mare
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 12 Apr | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 2 | 84.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 123 |
| Sat 9 Mar | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 75.0 | Raul Mena | 123 |
| Sun 4 Feb | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 4 | 67.0 | Angel Cruz | — |
| Sun 31 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 7 | 66.0 | Raul Mena | — |
| Sun 10 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 86.0 | Raul Mena | 126 |
| Sat 4 Nov | DELAWARE PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 76.0 | Raul Mena | 123 |
| Wed 18 Oct | DELAWARE PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 79.0 | Raul Mena | 123 |
| Wed 6 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 5 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 68.0 | Raul Mena | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
1ASix o'Clock SarahJaime Rodriguez—54.3—8/18
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 5.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.3
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jaime Rodriguez
- Trainer
- Jamie Ness
- Weight · days off
- —
Mare
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 24 Mar | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 2 | 840.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 123 |
| Wed 28 Feb | PARX RACING | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 730.0 | Mychel Sanchez | 121 |
| Sun 28 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 700.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | — |
| Sun 21 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Jaime Rodriguez | — |
| Sun 31 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 790.0 | Jeiron Barbosa | — |
| Sun 26 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 6 | 650.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 123 |
| Thu 2 Nov | PENN NATIONAL | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 780.0 | Angel Rodriguez | 120 |
| Fri 13 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 8 | 780.0 | Carlos Lopez | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Our Strong VowsDenis Araujo—57.3—8/113/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 57.3
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Denis Araujo
- Trainer
- W. Bailes
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 19 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Denis Araujo | 120 |
| Thu 2 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Denis Araujo | 123 |
| Sun 29 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 810.0 | Denis Araujo | 123 |
| Sun 8 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 2 | 780.0 | Denis Araujo | 123 |
| Fri 8 Sep | COLONIAL DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Outer turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 760.0 | Gavin Ashton | — |
| Sat 26 Aug | COLONIAL DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Outer turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 7 | 830.0 | Gavin Ashton | — |
| Sat 12 Aug | COLONIAL DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Outer turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 6 | 770.0 | Gavin Ashton | — |
| Thu 27 Jul | COLONIAL DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Outer turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 860.0 | Gavin Ashton | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Bound by DestinyJohan Rosado—53.3—20/159/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.3
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $6,780.38
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Johan Rosado
- Trainer
- W. McMahon
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 14 Apr | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 6 | 540.0 | Andres Chavez | 118 |
| Sun 24 Mar | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 4 | 790.0 | Andres Chavez | 116 |
| Sun 25 Feb | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 2 | 750.0 | Jorge Hernandez | 123 |
| Thu 15 Feb | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Xavier Perez | 120 |
| Fri 12 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Luis Batista | — |
| Fri 15 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 810.0 | Luis Batista | — |
| Fri 10 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | 520.0 | Alexander Crispin | 124 |
| Sun 5 Nov | SANTA ANITA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 950.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Dulce KiaraJeiron Barbosa—55.3—12/113/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.3
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jeiron Barbosa
- Trainer
- Charles DeMario
- Weight · days off
- —
Mare
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 19 Apr | CHARLES TOWN | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Allowance | 8 | 450.0 | Angel Cruz | 120 |
| Sat 14 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Handicap | 6 | 690.0 | Martina Rojas | 125 |
| Sat 9 Sep | PIMLICO | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 800.0 | Martina Rojas | 121 |
| Thu 10 Aug | COLONIAL DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 870.0 | Horacio Karamanos | — |
| Fri 21 Jul | COLONIAL DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Outer turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 810.0 | Horacio Karamanos | — |
| Sun 16 Jul | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Jeiron Barbosa | 126 |
| Sat 1 Jul | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Turf | Jameela S. | 9 | 690.0 | Horacio Karamanos | 120 |
| Sat 24 Jun | LAUREL PARK | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Allowance | 2 | 870.0 | Horacio Karamanos | 126 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Isabella's GloryVictor Carrasco—53.1—15/129/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.1
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Victor Carrasco
- Trainer
- Jose Corrales
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 10 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Jean Briceno | 123 |
| Fri 17 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 780.0 | Jean Briceno | 123 |
| Sun 29 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance | 7 | 730.0 | William Humphrey | 123 |
| Sat 14 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Maryland Million Distaff S. | — | not run | William Humphrey | 120 |
| Fri 22 Sep | PIMLICO | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance | 9 | 660.0 | William Humphrey | 123 |
| Sat 2 Sep | ARAPAHOE | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 720.0 | — | — |
| Fri 25 Aug | TIMONIUM | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Yomar Ortiz | — |
| Sat 19 Aug | LAUREL PARK | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 810.0 | William Humphrey | 126 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Princess JavonciaHoracio Karamanos—54.2—3/18/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.2
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 53: 11-9-9
- Wins
- 20.8%
- Earnings
- $399,957
- Per start
- $7,546.36
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Horacio Karamanos
- Trainer
- Elizabeth Merryman
- Weight · days off
- —
Mare
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 28 Apr | OAKLAWN PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 920.0 | — | — |
| Thu 28 Mar | OAKLAWN PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 8 | 710.0 | — | — |
| Fri 16 Feb | OAKLAWN PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 880.0 | — | — |
| Sat 20 Jan | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Handicap | 6 | 76.0 | Charlie Marquez | — |
| Fri 5 Jan | OAKLAWN PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 850.0 | — | — |
| Sat 30 Dec | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Handicap | 2 | 93.0 | Charlie Marquez | — |
| Wed 13 Dec | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Carol Cedeno | 123 |
| Fri 17 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 73.0 | Horacio Karamanos | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7True Blue PearlMartina Rojas—52.4—4/14
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.4
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $3,820.22
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Martina Rojas
- Trainer
- Hugh McMahon
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 19 Apr | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 76.0 | Jevian Toledo | 123 |
| Wed 20 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Starter Allowance | 2 | 90.0 | Adam Beschizza | 120 |
| Sun 25 Feb | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 65.0 | J.G. Torrealba | 121 |
| Thu 25 Jan | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 74.0 | Martina Rojas | 115 |
| Sun 31 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 4 | 69.0 | William Humphrey | — |
| Fri 8 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 85.0 | William Humphrey | 119 |
| Sun 12 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 67.0 | Angel Cruz | 123 |
| Fri 13 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 78.0 | Angel Cruz | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8MeetmeatthebeachJorge Hernandez—54.3—20/120
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.3
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jorge Hernandez
- Trainer
- Mario Serey, Jr.
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 25 Apr | CHARLES TOWN | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 5 | 720.0 | Jorge Hernandez | 120 |
| Wed 21 Feb | CHARLES TOWN | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 740.0 | Jorge Hernandez | 120 |
| Wed 7 Feb | CHARLES TOWN | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 810.0 | Jorge Hernandez | — |
| Fri 26 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Jorge Hernandez | — |
| Fri 19 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Jorge Hernandez | — |
| Fri 29 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 610.0 | Jorge Hernandez | — |
| Thu 14 Dec | CHARLES TOWN | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 730.0 | Jorge Hernandez | — |
| Sat 2 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 450.0 | Andres Chavez | 114 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9A New PeaceAngel Cruz—55.4—2/12
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.4
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Angel Cruz
- Trainer
- David Jacobson
- Weight · days off
- —
Mare
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 30 Mar | AQUEDUCT | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Allowance | 3 | 68.0 | Isaac Castillo | — |
| Fri 9 Feb | AQUEDUCT | 1 Mile · Dirt | Starter Allowance | 8 | 40.0 | Manuel Franco | — |
| Fri 19 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 5 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 92.0 | Armando Ayuso | 122 |
| Fri 12 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 4 | 75.0 | Armando Ayuso | 122 |
| Sun 26 Nov | DEL MAR | 5 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 4 | 86.0 | Armando Ayuso | 120 |
| Sat 14 Oct | SANTA ANITA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 81.0 | Armando Ayuso | 122 |
| Fri 15 Sep | LOS ALAMITOS THOROUGHBRED | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Allowance | 2 | 86.0 | Armando Ayuso | 124 |
| Thu 3 Aug | DEL MAR | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 84.0 | Hector Berrios | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Remember MeJ.G. Torrealba—53.2—20/120
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.2
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- J.G. Torrealba
- Trainer
- John Robb
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 14 Apr | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 690.0 | J.G. Torrealba | 112 |
| Sun 17 Mar | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 620.0 | Alexander Crispin | 121 |
| Sun 10 Mar | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 450.0 | Alexander Crispin | 121 |
| Sun 17 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 600.0 | Alexander Crispin | — |
| Sat 25 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 470.0 | Xavier Perez | 119 |
| Sun 22 Oct | SANTA ANITA | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 3 | 860.0 | — | — |
| Sat 14 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maryland Million Lassie S. | 7 | 530.0 | Jose Betancourt | 122 |
| Thu 31 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 410.0 | Jose Betancourt | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate