It's Viper——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,888.37
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for It's Viper.
Uncle Irish——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Colt
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Uncle Irish.
Uncle Irish——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 32: 5-3-7
- Wins
- 15.6%
- Earnings
- $84,110
- Per start
- $2,628.44
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Colt
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Uncle Irish.
1It's ViperSheldon Russell—53.6—10/111/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 17.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.6
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $9,976.96
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Sheldon Russell
- Trainer
- Brittany Russell
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 21 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Sheldon Russell | — |
| Fri 22 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 980.0 | Sheldon Russell | — |
| Sun 5 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 930.0 | Jevian Toledo | 121 |
| Thu 19 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 970.0 | Sheldon Russell | 120 |
| Sun 24 Sep | PIMLICO | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 810.0 | Sheldon Russell | 119 |
| Sat 29 Jul | LAUREL PARK | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Star De Naskra S. | 4 | 970.0 | Sheldon Russell | — |
| Sun 25 Jun | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Tale of the Cat S. | 3 | 820.0 | — | 120 |
| Sat 27 May | PIMLICO | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 930.0 | Jevian Toledo | 118 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2IywaanJulio Hernandez—54.2—9/29/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 16.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.2
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Julio Hernandez
- Trainer
- Mark Salvaggio
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 21 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Julio Hernandez | — |
| Fri 22 Dec | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Julio Hernandez | 120 |
| Fri 15 Sep | PIMLICO | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 900.0 | Tyler Conner | 126 |
| Sun 23 Jul | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 1050.0 | Tyler Conner | 126 |
| Wed 28 Jun | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 980.0 | Tyler Conner | — |
| Sat 20 May | PIMLICO | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 870.0 | Tyler Conner | 126 |
| Fri 7 Apr | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 970.0 | Tyler Conner | 123 |
| Sun 5 Feb | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Tyler Conner | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Uncle IrishJaime Rodriguez—52.3—20/127/4
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 16.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.3
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jaime Rodriguez
- Trainer
- Jamie Ness
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 21 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Jaime Rodriguez | — |
| Fri 22 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 9 | 87.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | — |
| Mon 4 Dec | PARX RACING | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 97.0 | Paco Lopez | 122 |
| Tue 7 Nov | PARX RACING | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 88.0 | Mychel Sanchez | 122 |
| Sun 5 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Jaime Rodriguez | 123 |
| Thu 19 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 86.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 123 |
| Fri 15 Sep | PIMLICO | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 67.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 123 |
| Sun 18 Jun | SANTA ANITA | 1 1/4 Miles · Downhill turf | Possibly Perfect S. | 1 | 990.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Supreme LawForest Boyce—55.8—15/115
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 14.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.8
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Forest Boyce
- Trainer
- Richard Sillaman
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 21 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Forest Boyce | — |
| Fri 22 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 990.0 | Alexander Crispin | — |
| Thu 23 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 980.0 | Alexander Crispin | 126 |
| Sat 28 Oct | DELAWARE PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 950.0 | Alexander Crispin | 123 |
| Sat 23 Sep | CUR | — | — | 4 | not run | — | — |
| Wed 13 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 850.0 | Forest Boyce | — |
| Sat 2 Sep | NAV | — | — | 3 | not run | — | — |
| Thu 24 Aug | COLONIAL DOWNS | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 900.0 | Forest Boyce | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5North HighlandJeiron Barbosa—54.6—12/141/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 14.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.6
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $5,868.42
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jeiron Barbosa
- Trainer
- Hamilton Smith
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 21 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Victor Carrasco | — |
| Sat 16 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 870.0 | Sheldon Russell | — |
| Thu 23 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 980.0 | Sheldon Russell | 124 |
| Sat 28 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 920.0 | Sheldon Russell | 120 |
| Thu 5 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 760.0 | Sheldon Russell | 123 |
| Sun 17 Sep | PIMLICO | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 810.0 | Jeiron Barbosa | 120 |
| Fri 25 Aug | TIMONIUM | About 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 570.0 | Jean Briceno | — |
| Fri 11 Aug | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 820.0 | Jean Briceno | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Bob MarcoMartina Rojas—54.5—2/13/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.5
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-0-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $239,700
- Per start
- $8,265.52
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Martina Rojas
- Trainer
- Kieron Magee
- Weight · days off
- —
7yo · Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 16 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 113.0 | Martina Rojas | — |
| Fri 24 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Alexander Crispin | 126 |
| Sat 4 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 99.0 | Martina Rojas | 121 |
| Wed 11 Oct | FINGER LAKES | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 720.0 | — | — |
| Sat 30 Sep | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 112.0 | Martina Rojas | 118 |
| Sat 23 Sep | PIMLICO | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Martina Rojas | 118 |
| Wed 20 Sep | FINGER LAKES | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 810.0 | — | — |
| Fri 8 Sep | PIMLICO | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 2 | 92.0 | Martina Rojas | 114 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Irish BoolumCarlos Lopez—52.8—30/160/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.8
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $9,608.37
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Carlos Lopez
- Trainer
- Cathal Lynch
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 21 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Carlos Lopez | — |
| Sat 30 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | William Humphrey | — |
| Sun 24 Sep | PIMLICO | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 730.0 | Charlie Marquez | 123 |
| Mon 4 Sep | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Charles Hesse III H. | 3 | 830.0 | Angel Arroyo | 119 |
| Sun 9 Jul | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Irish War Cry H. | 8 | 710.0 | Angel Arroyo | 118 |
| Sun 11 Jun | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Friendly Lover H. | 1 | 700.0 | Angel Arroyo | 116 |
| Wed 1 Mar | PARX RACING | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 8 | 670.0 | Charlie Marquez | 121 |
| Sun 15 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 820.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Luigi's SpiritAngel Cruz—53.0—5/234/7
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.0
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Angel Cruz
- Trainer
- Rodolfo Sanchez-Salomon
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 21 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Angel Cruz | — |
| Sun 7 Jan | AQUEDUCT | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 100.0 | Dylan Davis | 120 |
| Sat 23 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Robert T. Manfuso S. | 5 | 98.0 | Angel Cruz | — |
| Sat 2 Dec | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Starter Allowance | 2 | 102.0 | Corey Lanerie | 122 |
| Sun 5 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 99.0 | Angel Cruz | 123 |
| Fri 13 Oct | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 2 | 90.0 | Kevin Gomez | 122 |
| Fri 6 Oct | KEENELAND | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance | — | not run | Angel Cruz | 122 |
| Sat 24 Jun | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 86.0 | Charlie Marquez | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9BerksJ.G. Torrealba—53.0—15/163/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.0
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- J.G. Torrealba
- Trainer
- A. Allen III
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 22 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 940.0 | Carlos Lopez | — |
| Fri 8 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 930.0 | Carlos Lopez | 123 |
| Sun 5 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 1050.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 126 |
| Fri 13 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 980.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 123 |
| Thu 3 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 880.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | — |
| Thu 13 Jul | DELAWARE PARK | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance | 1 | 1050.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 124 |
| Fri 30 Jun | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 1030.0 | Mychel Sanchez | 122 |
| Fri 9 Jun | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 930.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | 126 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Armando RJevian Toledo—53.3—8/18
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.3
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $11,311.85
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jevian Toledo
- Trainer
- Damon Dilodovico
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 21 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Jevian Toledo | — |
| Fri 22 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 1010.0 | Horacio Karamanos | — |
| Fri 1 Dec | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 770.0 | Horacio Karamanos | 123 |
| Thu 26 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 840.0 | Horacio Karamanos | 123 |
| Sun 22 Oct | COLUMBUS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 2 | 720.0 | — | — |
| Sun 8 Oct | COLUMBUS | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 4 | 720.0 | — | — |
| Sun 24 Sep | SWEETWATER DOWNS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Exacta S. | 3 | 740.0 | — | — |
| Mon 4 Sep | ELKO FAIR | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 940.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
11Shackled LoveJean Briceno—52.3—30/167/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.3
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 24: 3-3-2
- Wins
- 12.5%
- Earnings
- $162,442
- Per start
- $6,768.42
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jean Briceno
- Trainer
- Gary Capuano
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 4 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 6 | 850.0 | Carlos Lopez | 123 |
| Thu 19 Oct | LAUREL PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 7 | 610.0 | Carlos Lopez | 123 |
| Fri 7 Apr | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 890.0 | Luis Rivera, Jr. | 116 |
| Mon 16 Jan | LAUREL PARK | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 8 | 460.0 | — | — |
| Sat 21 Aug | PIMLICO | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | ALLOWANCE | 1 | 990.0 | — | — |
| Sat 24 Jul | PIMLICO | 1 1/2 Miles · Turf | STAKES | 6 | 860.0 | — | — |
| Sat 15 May | PIMLICO | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | STAKES | 6 | 650.0 | — | — |
| Sat 24 Apr | PIMLICO | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | STAKES | 6 | 820.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate