Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 17Bourbon Day | $5.60 | $3.60 | $2.80 |
| 25Silver Quarters | — | $10.80 | $6.60 |
| 33Peruvian Lucky | — | — | $10.40 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 7-5 | — | $42.60 |
| Trifecta | 7-5-3 | — | $174.95 |
| Superfecta | 7-5-3-2 | — | $199.38 |
| Super high five | 7-5-3-2-9 | — | $2967.45 |
Fan Club——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $129
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Fan Club.
Unraptured——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $6,744.03
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Unraptured.
Richiesgotgame——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Richiesgotgame.
Underdressed——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 25: 6-5-2
- Wins
- 24.0%
- Earnings
- $72,099
- Per start
- $2,883.96
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Underdressed.
Midnight West——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Midnight West.
Midnight West——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 20: 3-2-2
- Wins
- 15.0%
- Earnings
- $53,825
- Per start
- $2,691.25
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Midnight West.
Fan Club——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Fan Club.
1Ready to Purrform122 lbLAxel Concepcion53.31074/117/9
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.6
- Middle
- 6.2
- Finish
- 6.4
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.3
- Career best · average
- 103.0 · 96.0
- Class, average · last
- 107 · 104
- Power
- 90.1 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $15,641.65
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Axel Concepcion
- Trainer
- Brad Cox 25/88
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 32d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 2 May | CHURCHILL DOWNS | 1 1/8 Miles · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 11 | 97.0 | Axel Concepcion | 122 |
| Thu 11 Apr | KEENELAND | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Florent Geroux | 118 |
| Sat 2 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 93.0 | Axel Concepcion | 125 |
| Thu 20 Apr | KEENELAND | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance | 5 | 103.0 | Flavien Prat | 118 |
| Sat 25 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 1/8 Miles · All Weather Track | TwinSpires Kentucky Cup Classic S. | — | not run | Fernando De La Cruz | 120 |
| Sat 21 Jan | FAIR GROUNDS | About 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Colonel E. R. Bradley S. | 6 | 91.0 | — | — |
| Sat 29 Oct | KEENELAND | 1 Mile · Turf | Bryan Station S. | 10 | 95.0 | — | — |
| Mon 5 Sep | KENTUCKY DOWNS | 1 5/16 Miles · Turf | Big Ass Fans Dueling Grounds Derby | 6 | 89.0 | Joel Rosario | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Midnight West122 lbLSamuel Bermudez54.8905/159/6
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.9
- Middle
- 4.1
- Finish
- 5.9
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.8
- Career best · average
- 77.0 · 78.0
- Class, average · last
- 90 · 97
- Power
- 97.8 · 2nd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Samuel Bermudez
- Trainer
- Tomas Medina 2/25
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 33d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 1 May | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 950.0 | Samuel Bermudez | 122 |
| Fri 29 Mar | OAKLAWN PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 7 | 760.0 | — | — |
| Thu 14 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 930.0 | Samuel Bermudez | 123 |
| Sat 2 Mar | OAKLAWN PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 720.0 | — | — |
| Sun 4 Feb | OAKLAWN PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 570.0 | — | — |
| Sun 19 Nov | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 750.0 | — | — |
| Fri 17 Nov | CHURCHILL DOWNS | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 4 | 480.0 | — | — |
| Mon 23 Oct | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 1050.0 | Samuel Bermudez | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Peruvian Lucky122 lbLDeshawn Parker54.59120/141/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.9
- Middle
- 6.8
- Finish
- 4.8
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.5
- Career best · average
- 94.0 · 83.0
- Class, average · last
- 91 · 105
- Power
- 99.3 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Deshawn Parker
- Trainer
- Adam Gerteisen
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 21d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 13 May | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 97.0 | Santo Sanjur | — |
| Thu 21 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 91.0 | Declan Cannon | 125 |
| Fri 8 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Declan Cannon | 124 |
| Thu 22 Feb | TURFWAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 86.0 | Luan Machado | 123 |
| Sat 13 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 88.0 | Luan Machado | 120 |
| Tue 24 Oct | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Luan Machado | 123 |
| Tue 19 Sep | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 81.0 | Luan Machado | 122 |
| Thu 7 Sep | KENTUCKY DOWNS | 7 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Vincent Cheminaud | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Fan Club222d off122 lbLAlberto Burgos53.210515/142/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.7
- Middle
- 5.7
- Finish
- 5.6
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.2
- Career best · average
- — · 96.0
- Class, average · last
- 105 · 107
- Power
- 71.4 · 12th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $8,212.21
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Alberto Burgos
- Trainer
- Brian Cook 2/10
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 222d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 25 Oct | KEENELAND | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 8 | 890.0 | Joseph Talamo | — |
| Fri 29 Sep | CHURCHILL DOWNS | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Joseph Talamo | 121 |
| Sat 7 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 1020.0 | — | — |
| Fri 25 Nov | CHURCHILL DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 870.0 | — | — |
| Fri 21 Oct | KEENELAND | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 850.0 | — | — |
| Sat 24 Sep | REMINGTON PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 4 | 820.0 | Richard Eramia | 120 |
| Sat 6 Aug | ELLIS PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 8 | 660.0 | Joseph Talamo | 122 |
| Sat 18 Jun | CHURCHILL DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 850.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Silver Quarters122 lbLOrlando Mojica53.710012/145/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.6
- Middle
- 7.8
- Finish
- 5.0
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.7
- Career best · average
- 92.0 · 86.0
- Class, average · last
- 100 · 105
- Power
- 90.9 · 6th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $6,659.98
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Orlando Mojica
- Trainer
- Steve Manley 1/2
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 21d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 26 May | HAWTHORNE | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Victor Santiago | — |
| Mon 13 May | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 95.0 | Luan Machado | — |
| Sat 30 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 1/4 Miles · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 100.0 | Abel Cedillo | 124 |
| Thu 7 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 95.0 | Cory Orm | 124 |
| Fri 16 Feb | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 1 | 96.0 | Luan Machado | 120 |
| Fri 5 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 1 | 86.0 | Luan Machado | 120 |
| Thu 7 Dec | TURFWAY PARK | 1 1/8 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Cory Orm | 121 |
| Tue 7 Nov | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Rodney Prescott | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Unraptured122 lbLJose Ortiz55.81036/117/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.3
- Middle
- 6.3
- Finish
- 6.3
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.8
- Career best · average
- 99.0 · 87.0
- Class, average · last
- 103 · 99
- Power
- 84.6 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $5,106.70
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jose Ortiz
- Trainer
- Richard Dutrow, Jr. 3/9
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 46d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 24 May | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 350 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 9 | 410.0 | — | — |
| Thu 18 Apr | KEENELAND | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | 63.0 | Irad Ortiz, Jr. | 118 |
| Thu 14 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 96.0 | Gerardo Corrales | 123 |
| Sat 24 Feb | OAKLAWN PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 12 | 39.0 | Keith Asmussen | 119 |
| Fri 8 Dec | GOLDEN GATE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 3 | 92.0 | Frank Alvarado | 123 |
| Sat 18 Nov | GOLDEN GATE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Oakland S. | 4 | 99.0 | Kevin Radke | 124 |
| Sun 3 Sep | GOLDEN GATE | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 109.0 | Frank Alvarado | 123 |
| Sat 1 Jul | PLEASANTON | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Oak Tree Sprint S. | 3 | 95.0 | Armando Ayuso | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Bourbon Day122 lbLMarcelino Pedroza, Jr.53.7917/29/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.1
- Middle
- 5.0
- Finish
- 3.1
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.7
- Career best · average
- 98.0 · 85.0
- Class, average · last
- 91 · 105
- Power
- 92.0 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Marcelino Pedroza, Jr.
- Trainer
- Brad Cox 16/51
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 21d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 13 May | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 101.0 | Marcelino Pedroza, Jr. | — |
| Sun 10 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | About 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Allowance | 3 | 101.0 | Jareth Loveberry | 122 |
| Thu 8 Feb | FAIR GROUNDS | About 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 1 | 98.0 | Jose Rodriguez | — |
| Fri 12 Jan | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Timothy Thornton | — |
| Fri 22 Dec | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 8 | 91.0 | Jose Rodriguez | 119 |
| Fri 17 Nov | FAIR GROUNDS | About 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance | 1 | 86.0 | Jose Rodriguez | 120 |
| Sat 2 Sep | KENTUCKY DOWNS | 7 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance | 7 | 88.0 | Reylu Gutierrez | 121 |
| Sat 29 Jul | EVANGELINE | About 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 86.0 | Jose Rodriguez | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Richiesgotgame389d off122 lbLMartin Chuan53.81079/225/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.7
- Middle
- 6.7
- Finish
- 6.7
- Post draw
- 6.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.8
- Career best · average
- 95.0 · 97.0
- Class, average · last
- 107 · 104
- Power
- 80.7 · 11th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Martin Chuan
- Trainer
- Michael Maker 2/9
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 389d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 11 May | BELMONT PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 950.0 | Irad Ortiz, Jr. | 118 |
| Fri 5 May | CHURCHILL DOWNS | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Tyler Gaffalione | 122 |
| Sat 25 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 1/8 Miles · All Weather Track | TwinSpires Kentucky Cup Classic S. | 7 | 950.0 | Edgard Zayas | 120 |
| Sat 4 Feb | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 1020.0 | Shaun Bridgmohan | 122 |
| Sun 13 Nov | HAWTHORNE | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 900.0 | Jareth Loveberry | 124 |
| Sat 15 Oct | HAWTHORNE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Pizza Man S. | 1 | 1120.0 | — | — |
| Sun 25 Sep | HAWTHORNE | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 820.0 | Jareth Loveberry | 121 |
| Tue 21 Jun | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 4 | 830.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Underdressed122 lbLEmmanuel Esquivel53.210512/119/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.0
- Middle
- 3.6
- Finish
- 3.7
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.2
- Career best · average
- 105.0 · 94.0
- Class, average · last
- 105 · 105
- Power
- 94.8 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Emmanuel Esquivel
- Trainer
- Aaron West
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 21d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 13 May | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 960.0 | Abel Cedillo | — |
| Thu 11 Apr | KEENELAND | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Edgar Morales | 118 |
| Sat 17 Feb | TURFWAY PARK | 1 1/4 Miles · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 7 | 940.0 | Samuel Bermudez | 124 |
| Sun 7 Jan | SANTA ANITA | 1 Mile · Turf | Maiden Special Weight | 2 | 960.0 | — | — |
| Sat 23 Dec | TURFWAY PARK | 1 1/4 Miles · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | 7 | 860.0 | Orlando Mojica | 121 |
| Sat 9 Dec | LOS ALAMITOS THOROUGHBRED | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 3 | 930.0 | — | — |
| Thu 30 Nov | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Orlando Mojica | 121 |
| Sun 19 Nov | DEL MAR | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 3 | 910.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate