Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 12Berlaine | $7.20 | $4.00 | $3.40 |
| 29Madam Henny | — | $6.00 | $5.80 |
| 34Bye Love Gotta Go | — | — | $16.20 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 2-9 | — | $29.20 |
| Trifecta | 2-9-4 | — | $319.05 |
| Superfecta | 2-9-4-1 | — | $626.99 |
Its Just Money——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $320
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Its Just Money.
Flowersforshantell——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 17: 3-2-1
- Wins
- 17.6%
- Earnings
- $48,769
- Per start
- $2,868.76
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Flowersforshantell.
Glamorous Life——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 14: 0-5-1
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $19,080
- Per start
- $1,362.86
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Glamorous Life.
1Flowersforshantell121 lbLMarcelino Pedroza, Jr.53.7779/223/4
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.5
- Middle
- 6.2
- Finish
- 4.6
- Post draw
- 18.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.7
- Career best · average
- 68.0 · 67.0
- Class, average · last
- 77 · 80
- Power
- 68.0 · 3rd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-2-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $106,178
- Per start
- $2,589.71
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Marcelino Pedroza, Jr.
- Trainer
- Tanner Tracy 0/11
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 21d
8yo · Mare · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 2 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 630.0 | C.J. McMahon | 120 |
| Sun 6 Oct | HAWTHORNE | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 760.0 | David Cohen | 122 |
| Fri 20 Sep | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Kevin Roman | 119 |
| Mon 2 Sep | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 620.0 | Kevin Roman | 122 |
| Sun 28 Jul | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 610.0 | Kevin Roman | 123 |
| Sun 30 Jun | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 4 | 660.0 | Kevin Roman | 123 |
| Mon 3 Jun | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 660.0 | Kevin Roman | 124 |
| Fri 17 May | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 530.0 | Glenn Corbett | 124 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Berlaine119 lbLBen Curtis53.4833/113/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.5
- Middle
- 5.2
- Finish
- 4.6
- Post draw
- 15.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.4
- Career best · average
- 73.0 · 68.0
- Class, average · last
- 83 · 92
- Power
- 70.3 · 2nd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Ben Curtis
- Trainer
- Alexis Claire 0/3
- Weight · days off
- 119 · 67d
Mare · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 30 Sep | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 2 | 910.0 | — | — |
| Tue 17 Sep | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 550.0 | Lindey Wade | 119 |
| Tue 3 Sep | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 5 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 870.0 | — | — |
| Tue 20 Aug | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance | 1 | 760.0 | Lindey Wade | 118 |
| Wed 7 Aug | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 850.0 | — | — |
| Sat 20 Jul | EVANGELINE | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 610.0 | Angel Suarez | 117 |
| Mon 15 Jul | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 920.0 | — | — |
| Wed 3 Jul | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 4 | 630.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Crystal Crescent116 lbLSergio Munoz52.58020/152/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.2
- Middle
- 6.3
- Finish
- 6.1
- Post draw
- 14.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.5
- Career best · average
- 81.0 · 64.0
- Class, average · last
- 80 · 78
- Power
- 63.6 · 6th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 2-0-0
- Wins
- 50.0%
- Earnings
- $87,593
- Per start
- $1,717.51
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Sergio Munoz
- Trainer
- Cesar Govea 5/44
- Weight · days off
- 116 · 7d
8yo · Mare · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 16 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 510.0 | Sergio Munoz | 115 |
| Fri 8 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Sergio Munoz | 119 |
| Wed 30 Oct | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 700.0 | Sergio Munoz | 115 |
| Wed 31 Jul | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 570.0 | Aubrie Green | 122 |
| Tue 18 Jun | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 5 | 770.0 | Aubrie Green | 122 |
| Tue 4 Jun | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 600.0 | Aubrie Green | 122 |
| Mon 27 May | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 4 | 730.0 | Sergio Munoz | 117 |
| Tue 14 May | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 580.0 | Juan Vargas | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Bye Love Gotta Go121 lbLTreylon Albert55.17220/160/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.9
- Middle
- 3.8
- Finish
- 4.9
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.1
- Career best · average
- 72.0 · 53.0
- Class, average · last
- 72 · 71
- Power
- 53.8 · 10th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $4,144.55
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Treylon Albert
- Trainer
- Henry Guillory, Jr.
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 62d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 9 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Jansen Melancon | 120 |
| Sun 22 Sep | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | not run | Hugo Torres | 112 |
| Sat 7 Sep | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 670.0 | Hugo Torres | 117 |
| Sun 18 Aug | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 530.0 | Hugo Torres | 123 |
| Mon 5 Aug | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 520.0 | Hugo Torres | 120 |
| Fri 12 Jul | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 700.0 | Hugo Torres | 119 |
| Wed 3 Jul | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 540.0 | Hugo Torres | 123 |
| Fri 28 Jun | PRAIRIE MEADOWS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Hugo Torres | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Zoom Erin121 lbLJose Riquelme54.28615/153/6
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.8
- Middle
- 3.7
- Finish
- 4.2
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.2
- Career best · average
- 67.0 · 62.0
- Class, average · last
- 86 · 83
- Power
- 56.4 · 9th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jose Riquelme
- Trainer
- Kenneth Hargrave 2/16
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 61d
Mare · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 23 Sep | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 66.0 | Sergio Munoz | 117 |
| Tue 10 Sep | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 51.0 | Carlos Perez | 117 |
| Wed 7 Aug | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 9 | 53.0 | Sergio Munoz | 117 |
| Mon 24 Jun | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Carlos Lozada | 122 |
| Wed 29 May | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 59.0 | Lindey Wade | 122 |
| Tue 14 May | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 46.0 | Joel Dominguez | 122 |
| Wed 13 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 87.0 | Jaime Torres | 121 |
| Thu 22 Feb | FAIR GROUNDS | About 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 6 | 59.0 | Jaime Torres | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Track Smart118 lbLMitchell Murrill54.2858/112/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.7
- Middle
- 3.6
- Finish
- 5.6
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.2
- Career best · average
- 86.0 · 65.0
- Class, average · last
- 85 · 84
- Power
- 73.5 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 45: 12-11-2
- Wins
- 26.7%
- Earnings
- $218,168
- Per start
- $4,848.18
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Mitchell Murrill
- Trainer
- Gary Scherer 1/4
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 133d
Mare · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 13 Jul | EVANGELINE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 510.0 | Joel Dominguez | 118 |
| Fri 28 Jun | EVANGELINE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 7 | 550.0 | Joel Dominguez | 115 |
| Sat 25 May | EVANGELINE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 840.0 | Joel Dominguez | 117 |
| Sat 4 May | FONNER PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Al Swihart Memorial S. | 7 | 620.0 | Kevin Roman | — |
| Sat 13 Apr | FONNER PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 890.0 | Kevin Roman | — |
| Sat 30 Mar | FONNER PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Springtime Tradition S. | 2 | 790.0 | Kevin Roman | — |
| Sat 2 Mar | FONNER PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 2 | 790.0 | Kevin Roman | — |
| Sat 13 Jan | DELTA DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 6 | 490.0 | Kevin Roman | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Atomic Rose116 lbLJulio Ramirez, Jr.55.2849/220/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.7
- Middle
- 5.3
- Finish
- 4.0
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.2
- Career best · average
- 75.0 · 62.0
- Class, average · last
- 84 · 86
- Power
- 65.9 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Julio Ramirez, Jr.
- Trainer
- Matthew Lorefice 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 116 · 105d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 10 Aug | EVANGELINE | 5 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance | 8 | 670.0 | Rohan Singh | 121 |
| Tue 9 Jul | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 690.0 | Rohan Singh | 124 |
| Fri 28 Jun | EVANGELINE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 1 | 770.0 | Rohan Singh | 118 |
| Wed 5 Jun | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 6 | 500.0 | Rohan Singh | 124 |
| Tue 28 May | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Joel Dominguez | 124 |
| Tue 7 May | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 640.0 | Joel Dominguez | 124 |
| Sat 13 Apr | EVANGELINE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 740.0 | Joel Dominguez | 120 |
| Thu 14 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | About 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 10 | 180.0 | Rohan Singh | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8The Rage of Art124 lbLJaime Torres53.87910/116/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.6
- Middle
- 7.4
- Finish
- 6.0
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.8
- Career best · average
- 73.0 · 62.0
- Class, average · last
- 79 · 71
- Power
- 61.6 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,971.31
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jaime Torres
- Trainer
- Cesar Govea
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 15d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 8 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 760.0 | Sergio Munoz | 115 |
| Sat 19 Oct | DELTA DOWNS | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 560.0 | Sergio Munoz | 115 |
| Wed 28 Aug | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 10 | 540.0 | Carlos Lozada | 122 |
| Wed 19 Jun | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 490.0 | Sergio Munoz | 117 |
| Sat 8 Jun | LONE STAR | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 560.0 | Erik Asmussen | — |
| Tue 21 May | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 5 | 740.0 | Carlos Lozada | 122 |
| Mon 13 May | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 3 | 670.0 | Lindey Wade | 122 |
| Fri 3 May | LONE STAR | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Iram Diego | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Madam Henny116 lbLKylie Wellington54.1829/222/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.8
- Middle
- 6.7
- Finish
- 6.7
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.1
- Career best · average
- 52.0 · 66.0
- Class, average · last
- 82 · 83
- Power
- 67.1 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Kylie Wellington
- Trainer
- Joe Duhon 0/4
- Weight · days off
- 116 · 115d
Mare · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 31 Jul | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 8 | 540.0 | Carlos Lozada | 122 |
| Mon 24 Jun | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 780.0 | Emanuel Nieves | 122 |
| Sat 16 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | About 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 3 | 730.0 | Emanuel Nieves | — |
| Sat 3 Feb | FAIR GROUNDS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 520.0 | Emanuel Nieves | — |
| Fri 8 Dec | FAIR GROUNDS | About 5 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | — | not run | Emanuel Nieves | 120 |
| Sun 21 May | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Turf | Allowance | 1 | 730.0 | Emanuel Nieves | 122 |
| Fri 3 Feb | FAIR GROUNDS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 780.0 | Edgar Morales | 121 |
| Thu 8 Dec | FAIR GROUNDS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 540.0 | Jamie Theriot | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Reba Attack121 lbLJareth Loveberry54.8756/117/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.0
- Middle
- 5.0
- Finish
- 4.2
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.8
- Career best · average
- 73.0 · 63.0
- Class, average · last
- 75 · 72
- Power
- 58.4 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 1-0-1
- Wins
- 25.0%
- Earnings
- $96,347
- Per start
- $3,010.84
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jareth Loveberry
- Trainer
- Vance Childers 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 35d
6yo · Mare · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 19 Oct | FanDuel Sportsbook and Horse Racing | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 7 | 46.0 | Victor Santiago | 126 |
| Thu 3 Oct | HAWTHORNE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 4 | 66.0 | E. Baird | 122 |
| Thu 19 Sep | HAWTHORNE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 6 | 51.0 | Victor Santiago | 122 |
| Sun 8 Sep | DEL MAR | 5 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 1030.0 | — | — |
| Sun 1 Sep | HAWTHORNE | 5 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance | 5 | 71.0 | Victor Santiago | 124 |
| Tue 6 Aug | FanDuel Sportsbook and Horse Racing | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 69.0 | Victor Santiago | 126 |
| Tue 16 Jul | FanDuel Sportsbook and Horse Racing | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 69.0 | Victor Santiago | 124 |
| Sun 16 Jun | HAWTHORNE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 72.0 | Orlando Mojica | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate