Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 12Max Pandowdy | $7.40 | $4.40 | $2.40 |
| 27Aniclude | — | $15.00 | $5.80 |
| 34Math Man | — | — | $2.20 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 2-7 | — | $43.90 |
| Trifecta | 2-7-4 | — | $52.10 |
| Superfecta | 2-7-4-3 | — | $89.19 |
Courageous Timmy——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,303.83
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Courageous Timmy.
1Bassett118 lbLAntonio Trujillo50.88010/127/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.8
- Middle
- 6.6
- Finish
- 5.2
- Post draw
- 19.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 50.8
- Career best · average
- 68.0 · 61.0
- Class, average · last
- 80 · 89
- Power
- 63.9 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Antonio Trujillo
- Trainer
- Chasey Pomier
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 43d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 24 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Antonio Trujillo | 121 |
| Fri 10 Feb | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 9 | 480.0 | Elio Barrera | 109 |
| Wed 25 Jan | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 540.0 | — | — |
| Wed 14 Dec | DELTA DOWNS | 1 1/4 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 810.0 | — | — |
| Wed 23 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 570.0 | — | — |
| Fri 4 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 560.0 | Hugo Torres | 112 |
| Sat 8 Oct | DELTA DOWNS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 680.0 | Hugo Torres | 115 |
| Thu 25 Aug | CHARLES TOWN | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 590.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Max Pandowdy121 lbLDeshawn Parker51.3766/119/7
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.0
- Middle
- 4.9
- Finish
- 4.6
- Post draw
- 16.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 51.3
- Career best · average
- 74.0 · 62.0
- Class, average · last
- 76 · 71
- Power
- 65.8 · 3rd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Deshawn Parker
- Trainer
- John Hirdes
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 20d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 5 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 640.0 | Marcelino Pedroza, Jr. | — |
| Sun 12 Feb | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 630.0 | Erica Murray | 121 |
| Sun 22 Jan | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 610.0 | — | — |
| Sun 1 Jan | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 630.0 | Erica Murray | 121 |
| Sun 11 Dec | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 740.0 | Erica Murray | 121 |
| Thu 1 Dec | FAIR GROUNDS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 580.0 | — | — |
| Sat 8 Oct | DELTA DOWNS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 690.0 | Roberto Morales | 120 |
| Mon 29 Aug | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 460.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Da Gold Room121 lbLMarcelino Pedroza, Jr.50.58015/129
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.7
- Middle
- 5.5
- Finish
- 6.0
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 50.5
- Career best · average
- 74.0 · 56.0
- Class, average · last
- 80 · 74
- Power
- 51.7 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 43: 2-2-5
- Wins
- 4.7%
- Earnings
- $54,207
- Per start
- $1,260.63
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Marcelino Pedroza, Jr.
- Trainer
- Patricia West 2/3
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 22d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 3 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 260.0 | Deshawn Parker | — |
| Sun 12 Feb | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 590.0 | Deshawn Parker | 121 |
| Sun 22 Jan | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 510.0 | — | — |
| Sun 1 Jan | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 580.0 | Sofia Barandela | 116 |
| Sun 11 Dec | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 300.0 | Sofia Barandela | 116 |
| Thu 1 Dec | FAIR GROUNDS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 530.0 | — | — |
| Sat 21 May | LOUISIANA DOWNS | About 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 6 | 660.0 | Treylon Albert | 119 |
| Sun 8 May | LOUISIANA DOWNS | About 1 Mile · Turf | — | 7 | 770.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Math Man124 lbLJuan Vargas51.0744/113/10
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.3
- Middle
- 5.3
- Finish
- 3.6
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 51.0
- Career best · average
- 73.0 · 64.0
- Class, average · last
- 74 · 81
- Power
- 68.8 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Juan Vargas
- Trainer
- Juan Larrosa 4/19
- Weight · days off
- 124 · 15d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 10 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 690.0 | Juan Vargas | 122 |
| Sat 18 Feb | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 650.0 | Joel Dominguez | 120 |
| Wed 8 Feb | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Joel Dominguez | 120 |
| Wed 11 Jan | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 570.0 | — | — |
| Wed 28 Dec | DELTA DOWNS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 670.0 | Joel Dominguez | 119 |
| Wed 30 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 640.0 | — | — |
| Sat 5 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 640.0 | Joel Dominguez | 121 |
| Thu 25 Aug | EVANGELINE | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 660.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Valiant Defender121 lbLOriel Chavez51.0696/139/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 8.2
- Middle
- 7.7
- Finish
- 5.0
- Post draw
- 15.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 51.0
- Career best · average
- 71.0 · 56.0
- Class, average · last
- 69 · 71
- Power
- 57.5 · 6th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 42: 2-3-6
- Wins
- 4.8%
- Earnings
- $58,408
- Per start
- $1,390.67
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Oriel Chavez
- Trainer
- Charles Zenon 0/7
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 20d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 5 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 670.0 | Juan Vargas | — |
| Sun 12 Feb | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 510.0 | Juan Vargas | 121 |
| Fri 27 Jan | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 640.0 | Juan Vargas | 123 |
| Wed 28 Dec | DELTA DOWNS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 710.0 | — | — |
| Fri 16 Dec | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 640.0 | Juan Vargas | 120 |
| Wed 30 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 650.0 | — | — |
| Sat 19 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 480.0 | — | — |
| Sat 5 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 540.0 | Juan Vargas | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Genius116 lbLElio Barrera53.26712/141/4
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.9
- Middle
- 5.2
- Finish
- 5.2
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.2
- Career best · average
- — · 45.0
- Class, average · last
- 67 · 74
- Power
- 46.8 · 10th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Elio Barrera
- Trainer
- Chasey Pomier 3/32
- Weight · days off
- 116 · 22d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 25 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 940.0 | — | — |
| Fri 3 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 61.0 | Elio Barrera | — |
| Thu 16 Feb | DELTA DOWNS | 7 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 63.0 | Elio Barrera | 115 |
| Fri 27 Jan | DELTA DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 53.0 | Vicente Del-Cid | 123 |
| Sun 22 Jan | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Special Weight | 10 | 640.0 | — | — |
| Fri 30 Dec | DELTA DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 61.0 | — | — |
| Fri 16 Dec | DELTA DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 48.0 | Vicente Del-Cid | 122 |
| Wed 23 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | not run | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Aniclude121 lbLBrianne Culp52.5829/247/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.5
- Middle
- 6.2
- Finish
- 6.9
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.5
- Career best · average
- 67.0 · 68.0
- Class, average · last
- 82 · 71
- Power
- 58.6 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,769.03
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Brianne Culp
- Trainer
- Shane Wilson 1/4
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 20d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 5 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 660.0 | Edgar Morales | — |
| Sun 22 Jan | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 490.0 | — | — |
| Thu 12 Jan | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 480.0 | Jose Rodriguez | 121 |
| Mon 19 Dec | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 640.0 | Jose Rodriguez | 121 |
| Sat 24 Sep | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 5 | 680.0 | Calvin Borel | 122 |
| Tue 12 Jul | LOUISIANA DOWNS | About 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 790.0 | Calvin Borel | 122 |
| Mon 20 Jun | LOUISIANA DOWNS | About 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 4 | 730.0 | — | — |
| Mon 9 May | LOUISIANA DOWNS | About 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | ALLOWANCE | 5 | 690.0 | Alexander Castillo | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Bosshog Them Dukes121 lbLEmanuel Nieves52.1749/226/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.8
- Middle
- 6.8
- Finish
- 5.8
- Post draw
- 6.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.1
- Career best · average
- 63.0 · 52.0
- Class, average · last
- 74 · 71
- Power
- 67.6 · 2nd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 18: 2-2-3
- Wins
- 11.1%
- Earnings
- $32,750
- Per start
- $1,819.44
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Emanuel Nieves
- Trainer
- Joseph Foster 8/61
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 20d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 5 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 620.0 | Deshawn Parker | — |
| Fri 17 Feb | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 610.0 | Jareth Loveberry | — |
| Sun 15 Jan | TAMPA BAY | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 10 | 380.0 | — | — |
| Fri 23 Dec | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 580.0 | Lucky Mbatha | 109 |
| Fri 16 Dec | TAMPA BAY | 1 mile 40 Yards · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 5 | 550.0 | Brittany Scampton | 121 |
| Sat 3 Dec | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 1/8 Miles · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 430.0 | — | — |
| Sat 5 Nov | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 8 | 460.0 | Mario Fuentes | 122 |
| Sat 22 Oct | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Maiden Special Weight | 8 | 290.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Sneaky Allie Kat118 lbLJose Rodriguez50.96610/117
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 8.5
- Middle
- 7.8
- Finish
- 5.5
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 50.9
- Career best · average
- 59.0 · 43.0
- Class, average · last
- 66 · 59
- Power
- 46.8 · 10th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 31: 1-2-7
- Wins
- 3.2%
- Earnings
- $27,060
- Per start
- $872.90
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jose Rodriguez
- Trainer
- Jessie Peterson 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 21d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 4 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 510.0 | Jose Rodriguez | — |
| Sat 11 Feb | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 640.0 | Jose Riquelme | 122 |
| Sun 22 Jan | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 580.0 | — | — |
| Sun 1 Jan | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 380.0 | Jose Riquelme | 121 |
| Thu 8 Dec | FAIR GROUNDS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 60.0 | Jose Riquelme | 121 |
| Thu 30 Jun | EVANGELINE | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 280.0 | Louis Stokes | 118 |
| Fri 10 Jun | EVANGELINE | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 390.0 | Louis Stokes | 123 |
| Mon 28 Feb | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile · Dirt | CLAIMING | 7 | 500.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Xietelehuas116 lbLTreylon Albert50.76820/182/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.2
- Middle
- 7.2
- Finish
- 5.5
- Post draw
- 3.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 50.7
- Career best · average
- 65.0 · 45.0
- Class, average · last
- 68 · 83
- Power
- 48.5 · 9th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $725.38
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Treylon Albert
- Trainer
- Jarmondrick Broussard 0/2
- Weight · days off
- 116 · 17d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 8 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 420.0 | Treylon Albert | — |
| Sat 11 Jun | LOUISIANA DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 470.0 | Roberto Morales | 124 |
| Sat 14 May | EVANGELINE | — | — | 1 | 650.0 | — | — |
| Fri 22 Apr | EVANGELINE | 1 Mile · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 1 | 550.0 | — | — |
| Fri 28 Jan | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 5 | 440.0 | — | — |
| Fri 31 Dec | DELTA DOWNS | 1 Mile · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 6 | 340.0 | — | — |
| Sat 20 Nov | DELTA DOWNS | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 8 | 310.0 | — | — |
| Thu 28 Jan | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | MAIDEN CLAIMING | 8 | 420.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
11Courageous Timmy121 lbLAubrie Green54.17415/125/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.9
- Middle
- 5.9
- Finish
- 4.3
- Post draw
- 3.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.1
- Career best · average
- 34.0 · 61.0
- Class, average · last
- 74 · 74
- Power
- 54.2 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Aubrie Green
- Trainer
- Corale Richards 1/19
- Weight · days off
- 121 · 22d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 19 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | not run | — | — |
| Tue 7 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 640.0 | — | — |
| Fri 3 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 510.0 | Aubrie Green | — |
| Sun 12 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 810.0 | — | — |
| Fri 10 Feb | FAIR GROUNDS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 590.0 | Deshawn Parker | 121 |
| Tue 24 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 7 | 660.0 | — | — |
| Fri 20 Jan | FAIR GROUNDS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 540.0 | — | — |
| Thu 29 Dec | FAIR GROUNDS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 660.0 | Deshawn Parker | 119 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate