Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 15Eddie the Great | $6.00 | $4.00 | $3.20 |
| 21Maybe It's Time | — | $6.80 | $4.40 |
| 310Gratia Prince | — | — | $3.60 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 5-1 | — | $24.50 |
| Trifecta | 5-1-10 | — | $52.20 |
| Superfecta | 5-1-10-8 | — | $119.75 |
Eddie the Great——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Eddie the Great.
Tidal Field——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 10: 0-1-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $5,748
- Per start
- $574.80
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Tidal Field.
Provision——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,808.81
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Provision.
Provision——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,854.13
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Provision.
Provision——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 5: 0-0-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $1,350
- Per start
- $270
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Provision.
1Maybe It's Time116 lbLRaul Mena51.1686/129/4
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 1.7
- Middle
- 1.9
- Finish
- 3.0
- Post draw
- 16.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 51.1
- Career best · average
- 74.0 · 41.0
- Class, average · last
- 68 · 74
- Power
- 67.0 · 9th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Raul Mena
- Trainer
- Michael Gorham 4/25
- Weight · days off
- 116 · 35d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 29 Sep | MEADOWLANDS | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Raul Mena | — |
| Fri 22 Sep | PIMLICO | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Jaime Rodriguez | 126 |
| Wed 13 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Raul Mena | — |
| Wed 30 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 1 | 760.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | — |
| Sat 19 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | About 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 3 | 770.0 | Carol Cedeno | — |
| Wed 2 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | About 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 8 | 590.0 | Skylar Zaplitny | — |
| Wed 12 Jul | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 550.0 | Jatniel Ramos | 138 |
| Sat 24 Jun | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 6 | 170.0 | Daniel Centeno | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Calloway Peak122 lbLNik Juarez53.1838/115/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.0
- Middle
- 6.9
- Finish
- 4.4
- Post draw
- 14.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.1
- Career best · average
- 81.0 · 73.0
- Class, average · last
- 83 · 86
- Power
- 80.9 · 3rd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Nik Juarez
- Trainer
- Dan Ward 7/36
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 24d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 10 Sep | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 690.0 | Nik Juarez | 121 |
| Sat 26 Aug | COLONIAL DOWNS | 1 3/16 Miles · Outer turf | Allowance | — | not run | Vincent Cheminaud | — |
| Thu 20 Jul | COLONIAL DOWNS | 1 1/8 Miles · Inner turf | Claiming | 2 | 820.0 | Mychel Sanchez | — |
| Sat 8 Jul | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/8 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 650.0 | Axel Concepcion | 121 |
| Fri 16 Jun | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 670.0 | Samy Camacho | 121 |
| Thu 25 May | PIMLICO | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 610.0 | Victor Carrasco | 126 |
| Fri 25 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 700.0 | — | — |
| Mon 7 Nov | LAUREL PARK | 1 1/8 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 3 | 910.0 | Angel Suarez | 114 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Joe Brains118 lbLAngel Arroyo52.4784/159/6
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.9
- Middle
- 2.9
- Finish
- 3.5
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.4
- Career best · average
- 80.0 · 68.0
- Class, average · last
- 78 · 80
- Power
- 73.7 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,758.29
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Angel Arroyo
- Trainer
- William Downing 0/1
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 46d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 23 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Jaime Rodriguez | 118 |
| Fri 22 Sep | PIMLICO | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Daniel Centeno | 126 |
| Wed 13 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Daniel Centeno | — |
| Sat 19 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | About 7 1/2 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 1 | 820.0 | Daniel Centeno | — |
| Sat 15 Jul | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 600.0 | John Hiraldo | 121 |
| Wed 21 Jun | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 550.0 | Jaime Rodriguez | — |
| Fri 2 Jun | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Turf | Claiming | 5 | 690.0 | Silvestre Gonzalez | 122 |
| Wed 22 Mar | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 3 | 830.0 | Angel Suarez | 119 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Eddie the Great116 lbLJomar Torres55.2908/12/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.1
- Middle
- 7.1
- Finish
- 5.2
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.2
- Career best · average
- 83.0 · 79.0
- Class, average · last
- 90 · 90
- Power
- 84.2 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-1-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $193,019
- Per start
- $4,196.07
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jomar Torres
- Trainer
- Claudio Gonzalez 13/55
- Weight · days off
- 116 · 20d
7yo · Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 23 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Jomar Torres | 116 |
| Thu 14 Sep | BELMONT AT THE BIG A | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 6 | 93.0 | Dylan Davis | — |
| Wed 13 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Ruben Silvera | — |
| Fri 18 Aug | SARATOGA | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Dylan Davis | 123 |
| Thu 3 Aug | SARATOGA | 1 Mile · Inner turf | Allowance | 8 | 83.0 | Ricardo Santana, Jr. | 123 |
| Tue 4 Jul | BELMONT PARK | 6 Furlongs · Turf | Allowance | 9 | 82.0 | Dylan Davis | 122 |
| Fri 2 Jun | BELMONT PARK | 6 Furlongs · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 78.0 | Manuel Franco | 123 |
| Sun 28 May | RUIDOSO DOWNS | 400 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 3 | 830.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Provision117 lbLDaniel Centeno54.0843/134/7
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.3
- Middle
- 3.9
- Finish
- 3.7
- Post draw
- 6.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.0
- Career best · average
- 88.0 · 70.0
- Class, average · last
- 84 · 87
- Power
- 76.5 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Daniel Centeno
- Trainer
- Orlando Noda
- Weight · days off
- 117 · 47d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 3 Sep | SARATOGA | 1 1/8 Miles · Inner turf | Starter Allowance | — | not run | Trevor McCarthy | 120 |
| Fri 18 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 540.0 | Jorge Vargas, Jr. | 117 |
| Thu 10 Aug | SARATOGA | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Dylan Davis | 120 |
| Sun 2 Jul | BELMONT PARK | 1 1/8 Miles · Inner turf | Allowance | 3 | 760.0 | Irad Ortiz, Jr. | 118 |
| Thu 15 Jun | BELMONT PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf | Claiming | 1 | 840.0 | Manuel Franco | 120 |
| Fri 31 Mar | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Starter Optional Claiming | 3 | 780.0 | Luis Saez | 118 |
| Fri 24 Mar | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 890.0 | Hector Diaz, Jr. | 118 |
| Fri 30 Dec | AQUEDUCT | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 600.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Gambling Tzar118 lbLIsmerio Villalobos53.78312/155/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.5
- Middle
- 6.9
- Finish
- 5.1
- Post draw
- 7.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.7
- Career best · average
- 84.0 · 72.0
- Class, average · last
- 83 · 81
- Power
- 74.4 · 6th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,791
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Ismerio Villalobos
- Trainer
- Diane Morici
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 27d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 25 Sep | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Martina Rojas | 117 |
| Thu 7 Sep | COLONIAL DOWNS | 1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf | Claiming | 5 | 740.0 | Joseph Rocco, Jr. | — |
| Wed 30 Aug | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 4 | 620.0 | — | — |
| Thu 10 Aug | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 610.0 | — | — |
| Fri 4 Aug | COLONIAL DOWNS | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 700.0 | Jorge Ruiz | — |
| Fri 28 Jul | PENN NATIONAL | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 520.0 | — | — |
| Thu 20 Jul | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 4 | 760.0 | Ricardo Chiappe | 120 |
| Fri 7 Jul | PENN NATIONAL | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 550.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8David's Prospec116 lbLAlexander Crispin53.47515/135/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.2
- Middle
- 1.1
- Finish
- 3.3
- Post draw
- 7.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.4
- Career best · average
- 77.0 · 50.0
- Class, average · last
- 75 · 80
- Power
- 60.4 · 11th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Alexander Crispin
- Trainer
- Gerald Iverson
- Weight · days off
- 116 · 32d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 23 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | John Hiraldo | 116 |
| Wed 13 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Charlie Marquez | — |
| Sat 2 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 3 | 800.0 | Charlie Marquez | — |
| Wed 5 Oct | CHARLES TOWN | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 480.0 | — | — |
| Thu 22 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 540.0 | Alexander Crispin | 121 |
| Thu 25 Aug | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 70.0 | — | — |
| Wed 17 Aug | PENN NATIONAL | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 230.0 | — | — |
| Sat 30 Jul | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 9 | 470.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Ready Reward116 lbLCarol Cedeno54.68510/139
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.1
- Middle
- 4.6
- Finish
- 4.9
- Post draw
- 4.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.6
- Career best · average
- 84.0 · 72.0
- Class, average · last
- 85 · 80
- Power
- 72.6 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,542.22
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Carol Cedeno
- Trainer
- William Dowling
- Weight · days off
- 116 · 32d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 23 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Carol Cedeno | 116 |
| Wed 13 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Carol Cedeno | — |
| Sat 2 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 690.0 | Daniel Centeno | — |
| Thu 10 Aug | PENN NATIONAL | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Inoel Beato | 120 |
| Thu 13 Jul | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 2 | 750.0 | Tyler Conner | 120 |
| Fri 30 Jun | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Daniel Centeno | 122 |
| Tue 20 Jun | PENN NATIONAL | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 6 | 870.0 | Daniel Centeno | 120 |
| Sat 27 May | DELAWARE PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 830.0 | Daniel Centeno | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Gratia Prince119 lbLJairo Rendon54.4755/122/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.6
- Middle
- 5.3
- Finish
- 3.4
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.4
- Career best · average
- 83.0 · 72.0
- Class, average · last
- 75 · 80
- Power
- 80.3 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jairo Rendon
- Trainer
- Kathleen O'Connell 6/26
- Weight · days off
- 119 · 60d
Gelding · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 23 Sep | DELAWARE PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Samuel Marin | 119 |
| Sun 10 Sep | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Jairo Rendon | 116 |
| Sat 5 Aug | MONMOUTH PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Claiming | 1 | 860.0 | Jairo Rendon | 117 |
| Sun 18 Jun | BELMONT PARK | 6 Furlongs · Inner turf | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 600.0 | — | — |
| Sat 13 May | BELMONT PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Maiden Claiming | 9 | 580.0 | — | — |
| Wed 26 Apr | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 5 | 720.0 | Hector Diaz, Jr. | 119 |
| Sun 23 Apr | AQUEDUCT | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 7 | 290.0 | — | — |
| Sat 1 Apr | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 2 | 770.0 | Hector Diaz, Jr. | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
11Fieldstone122 lbLWalter Cullum52.79112/114/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.1
- Middle
- 5.5
- Finish
- 4.2
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.7
- Career best · average
- 90.0 · 79.0
- Class, average · last
- 91 · 88
- Power
- 83.9 · 2nd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Walter Cullum
- Trainer
- Sherry Jackson 10/53
- Weight · days off
- 122 · 61d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 4 Aug | CHARLES TOWN | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance | 8 | 400.0 | Walter Cullum | 120 |
| Sat 15 Jul | CHARLES TOWN | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 3 | 800.0 | Walter Cullum | 120 |
| Fri 16 Jun | FAIR MEADOWS | 250 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 1 | 830.0 | — | — |
| Fri 26 May | CHURCHILL DOWNS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 640.0 | Ricardo Santana, Jr. | 124 |
| Sat 13 May | REMINGTON PARK | 400 Yards · Dirt | Trials | 6 | 760.0 | — | — |
| Sun 23 Apr | REMINGTON PARK | 250 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 6 | 580.0 | — | — |
| Sun 23 Apr | KEENELAND | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 960.0 | Corey Lanerie | 124 |
| Wed 22 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 880.0 | Deshawn Parker | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate