CHURCHILL DOWNS · Race 9 · Allowance

For Three Year Olds And Upward Which Have Never Won A Race Other Than Maiden, Claiming Or Starter Or Which Have Never Won Two Races. Three Year Olds, 120 Lbs.; Older, 123 Lbs. Non-winners Of A Race Other Than Claiming, Or Starter At A Mile Or Over On Theturf Since September 2 Allowed 2 Lbs. (if Deemed Inadvisable By Management To Run This Race Over The Turf Course, It Will Be Run On The Main Track At One And One Sixteenth Mile.) (rail At 12 Feet).

Race 9 of 11

Result

official
HorseWinPlaceShow
114Saint in the City$41.48$17.08$9.98
23Oscar Season$3.90$2.84
310Mercante$7.46
PoolFinishOnPaid
Exacta14-3$71.45
Trifecta14-3-10$482.01
Superfecta14-3-10-2$597.73
Allowance1 1/16 Miles · Turf · Firm · Purse $127,000
HorsePaceSpeedClassEVWinMLLive odds
Oscar Season

Probability

Pace

Early
Middle
Finish
Post draw

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
Career best · average
Class, average · last
Power

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
4: 2-1-1
Wins
50.0%
Earnings
$168,800
Per start
$42,200

Connections and form

Jockey
Trainer
Weight · days off

Filly

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Oscar Season.

Mount Horeb

Probability

Pace

Early
Middle
Finish
Post draw

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
Career best · average
Class, average · last
Power

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
Trainer
Weight · days off

Gelding

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Mount Horeb.

Born Flashy

Probability

Pace

Early
Middle
Finish
Post draw

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
Career best · average
Class, average · last
Power

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$1,882.86

Connections and form

Jockey
Trainer
Weight · days off
Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Born Flashy.

Mount Horeb

Probability

Pace

Early
Middle
Finish
Post draw

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
Career best · average
Class, average · last
Power

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
Trainer
Weight · days off

Gelding

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Mount Horeb.

Mercante

Probability

Pace

Early
Middle
Finish
Post draw

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
Career best · average
Class, average · last
Power

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$5,454.92

Connections and form

Jockey
Trainer
Weight · days off
Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Mercante.

Bernin Tune

Probability

Pace

Early
Middle
Finish
Post draw

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
Career best · average
Class, average · last
Power

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
Trainer
Weight · days off
Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Bernin Tune.

Unleash the Power

Probability

Pace

Early
Middle
Finish
Post draw

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
Career best · average
Class, average · last
Power

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$7,270.85

Connections and form

Jockey
Trainer
Weight · days off
Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Unleash the Power.

Mercante

Probability

Pace

Early
Middle
Finish
Post draw

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
Career best · average
Class, average · last
Power

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$1,039.32

Connections and form

Jockey
Trainer
Weight · days off
Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Mercante.

Oscar Season

Probability

Pace

Early
Middle
Finish
Post draw

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
Career best · average
Class, average · last
Power

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
12: 1-2-2
Wins
8.3%
Earnings
$12,128
Per start
$1,010.67

Connections and form

Jockey
Trainer
Weight · days off

Gelding

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Oscar Season.

1Born Flashy118 lbLChris Landeros55.0915/122/5

Probability

Pace

Early
2.2
Middle
1.0
Finish
1.0
Post draw
11.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
55.0
Career best · average
— · 93.0
Class, average · last
91 · 90
Power
106.5 · 1st in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
Chris Landeros
Trainer
Ian Wilkes 9/60
Weight · days off
118 · 54d

Gelding · L

Past performances
4 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Wed 9 OctKEENELAND1 1/16 Miles · TurfAllowancenot runLanfranco Dettori118
Sun 8 SepKENTUCKY DOWNS7 Furlongs · TurfMaiden Special Weight1870.0Irad Ortiz, Jr.121
Sat 23 MarGULFSTREAM PARK1 1/16 Miles · All Weather TrackMaiden Special Weight2860.0Jorge Ruiz118
Fri 14 JulELLIS PARK1 Mile · TurfMaiden Special Weightnot runChris Landeros119

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

2Mount Horeb121 lbLAxel Concepcion53.0898/125/2

Probability

Pace

Early
5.8
Middle
6.8
Finish
6.8
Post draw
10.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
53.0
Career best · average
87.0 · 87.0
Class, average · last
89 · 86
Power
87.7 · 7th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
Axel Concepcion
Trainer
Roger Attfield
Weight · days off
121 · 13d

L

Past performances
4 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sat 19 OctWOODBINE6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather TrackMaiden Special Weight194.0Emma-Jayne Wilson124
Thu 15 FebGULFSTREAM PARK7 1/2 Furlongs · TurfMaiden Special Weight10not runPaco Lopez123
Thu 18 JanGULFSTREAM PARK1 Mile · TurfMaiden Special Weight590.0Javier Castellano
Sun 10 DecWOODBINE6 Furlongs · All Weather TrackMaiden Special Weight381.0Jose Campos121

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

3Oscar Season118 lbLJareth Loveberry52.8949/211/6

Probability

Pace

Early
5.8
Middle
5.4
Finish
1.5
Post draw
14.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
52.8
Career best · average
93.0 · 85.0
Class, average · last
94 · 101
Power
98.9 · 4th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
Jareth Loveberry
Trainer
Brendan Walsh 5/28
Weight · days off
118 · 26d

L

Past performances
2 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sun 6 OctHAWTHORNE1 1/8 Miles · TurfHawthorne Derby3930.0Jareth Loveberry124
Thu 29 AugKENTUCKY DOWNS1 Mile · TurfMaiden Special Weight1760.0Luan Machado120

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

4Unleash the Power121 lbLJames Graham54.4974/121/5

Probability

Pace

Early
4.8
Middle
4.8
Finish
3.4
Post draw
12.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
54.4
Career best · average
100.0 · 93.0
Class, average · last
97 · 102
Power
101.2 · 2nd in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
James Graham
Trainer
Albert Stall, Jr. 0/1
Weight · days off
121 · 62d

Gelding · L

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sat 31 AugSARATOGA1 1/16 Miles · Inner turfAllowance697.0Luan Machado123
Fri 2 AugSARATOGA1 Mile · Inner turfStarter Optional Claiming1102.0Joel Rosario123
Sun 30 JunCHURCHILL DOWNS1 Mile · TurfAllowance598.0Joel Rosario124
Fri 31 MayCHURCHILL DOWNS1 Mile · TurfAllowance297.0Joel Rosario124
Sun 17 SepCHURCHILL DOWNS1 Mile · TurfAllowance872.0Corey Lanerie122
Wed 16 AugSARATOGA1 1/8 Miles · TurfStarter Allowance592.0Luis Saez123
Thu 10 AugSARATOGA1 Mile · DirtStarter Allowancenot runLuis Saez123
Fri 4 AugSARATOGA1 3/8 Miles · DirtStarter Allowancenot runLuis Saez123

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

5Half Dome (IRE)120 lbLGerardo Corrales53.7886/16

Probability

Pace

Early
2.9
Middle
2.4
Finish
1.3
Post draw
10.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
53.7
Career best · average
80.0 · 75.0
Class, average · last
88 · 88
Power
77.0 · 15th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
4: 1-1-0
Wins
25.0%
Earnings
$46,799
Per start
$11,699.75

Connections and form

Jockey
Gerardo Corrales
Trainer
Michael McCarthy 6/23
Weight · days off
120 · 22d

Colt · L

Past performances
5 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Thu 10 OctKEENELAND1 1/8 Miles · TurfMaiden Special Weight1940.0Flavien Prat120
Sun 25 AugELLIS PARK1 1/8 Miles · TurfMaiden Special Weight2640.0Gerardo Corrales118
Fri 5 JulELLIS PARK1 Mile · DirtMaiden Special Weight5710.0Florent Geroux118
Sat 8 JunCHURCHILL DOWNS1 1/8 Miles · TurfMaiden Special Weightnot runLuan Machado118
Sat 18 MayCHURCHILL DOWNS1 1/16 Miles · TurfMaiden Special Weightnot runFlorent Geroux118

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

6Winston Wolfscratched8/1
7Swiss Slang189d off118 lbLAlex Achard54.08212/143/3

Probability

Pace

Early
6.8
Middle
7.3
Finish
5.9
Post draw
10.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
54.0
Career best · average
14.0 · 69.0
Class, average · last
82 · 92
Power
71.0 · 16th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
Alex Achard
Trainer
Riley Mott 1/14
Weight · days off
118 · 189d

Horse · L

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Fri 7 JunCHURCHILL DOWNS1 Mile · TurfAllowance Optional Claimingnot runAdam Beschizza118
Fri 26 AprKEENELAND1 3/16 Miles · TurfAllowance388.0Junior Alvarado118
Thu 7 MarGULFSTREAM PARK1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather TrackStarter Optional Claiming181.0Junior Alvarado120
Wed 7 FebGULFSTREAM PARK1 1/16 Miles · All Weather TrackStarter Optional Claiming182.0Junior Alvarado
Sun 14 JanGULFSTREAM PARK1 1/16 Miles · All Weather TrackMaiden Claiming174.0Junior Alvarado
Sun 10 DecGULFSTREAM PARK1 Mile · TurfMaiden Special Weight1014.0Vincent Cheminaud118
Sun 3 DecGULFSTREAM PARK1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather TrackMaiden Optional Claimingnot runEdgard Zayas118
Sat 4 NovGULFSTREAM PARK1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather TrackMaiden Special Weightnot runEdgard Zayas118

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

8Real Men Violin118 lbLColby Hernandez53.4955/138/3

Probability

Pace

Early
3.9
Middle
4.4
Finish
2.5
Post draw
8.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
53.4
Career best · average
83.0 · 81.0
Class, average · last
95 · 97
Power
79.2 · 12th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
4: 0-0-0
Wins
0.0%
Earnings
$370,927
Per start
$13,738.04

Connections and form

Jockey
Colby Hernandez
Trainer
Kenneth McPeek 6/54
Weight · days off
118 · 48d

5yo · Gelding · L

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sat 14 SepLOUISIANA DOWNS1 1/8 Miles · DirtSuper Derby Presented by Cypress Solar & Roofing10not runColby Hernandez124
Sat 24 AugFanDuel Sportsbook and Horse Racing1 1/16 Miles · DirtSt. Louis Derby Presented by FANDUEL SPORTSBOOK375.0Colby Hernandez119
Sat 6 JulHORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS1 1/16 Miles · DirtIndiana Derby590.0Brian Hernandez, Jr.118
Mon 27 MayLONE STAR1 1/16 Miles · DirtTexas Derby388.0Reylu Gutierrez
Sun 21 AprHAWTHORNE1 1/8 Miles · DirtIllinois Derby presented by 1/ST BET281.0Reylu Gutierrez122
Sat 23 MarFAIR GROUNDS1 3/16 Miles · DirtTwinspires.com Louisiana Derby1132.0Corey Lanerie
Sat 17 FebFAIR GROUNDS1 1/8 Miles · DirtRisen Star S.880.0Brian Hernandez, Jr.122
Sat 25 NovCHURCHILL DOWNS1 1/16 Miles · DirtKentucky Jockey Club S.295.0Brian Hernandez, Jr.

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

9Bernin Tune118 lbLAdam Beschizza53.18530/181/1

Probability

Pace

Early
7.1
Middle
6.9
Finish
6.7
Post draw
9.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
53.1
Career best · average
69.0 · 71.0
Class, average · last
85 · 93
Power
78.6 · 13th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
4: 1-0-1
Wins
25.0%
Earnings
$72,773
Per start
$3,465.38

Connections and form

Jockey
Adam Beschizza
Trainer
William Morey 0/1
Weight · days off
118 · 23d

5yo · Gelding · L

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Wed 9 OctPRESQUE ISLE DOWNS1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather TrackAllowance289.0Antonio Gallardo119
Sun 1 SepKENTUCKY DOWNS1 5/16 Miles · TurfAllowance1045.0Florent Geroux118
Wed 31 JulPRESQUE ISLE DOWNS1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather TrackMaiden Special Weight184.0Antonio Gallardo120
Thu 18 JulHAWTHORNE1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtMaiden Special Weightnot runJulio Felix120
Fri 5 JulHORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtMaiden Claimingnot runMarcelino Pedroza, Jr.120
Sat 8 JunSARATOGA1 1/4 Miles · DirtBelmont S. Presented by NYRA Bets31040.0
Sat 4 MayCHURCHILL DOWNS1 1/4 Miles · DirtKentucky Derby presented by Woodford Reserve21090.0
Sat 6 AprKEENELAND1 1/8 Miles · DirtToyota Blue Grass S.11070.0

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

10Mercante468d off114 lbLIrving Moncada53.59715/120/1

Probability

Pace

Early
5.9
Middle
5.9
Finish
2.9
Post draw
7.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
53.5
Career best · average
105.0 · 99.0
Class, average · last
97 · 99
Power
99.6 · 3rd in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
4: 0-1-1
Wins
0.0%
Earnings
$995,342
Per start
$52,386.42

Connections and form

Jockey
Irving Moncada
Trainer
Brian Knippenberg
Weight · days off
114 · 468d

6yo · Gelding · L

Past performances
7 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Fri 8 MarTURFWAY PARK6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather TrackAllowance Optional Claimingnot runYarmarie Correa124
Sat 22 JulSARATOGA1 1/16 Miles · Inner turfAllowance Optional Claiming31050.0Junior Alvarado122
Fri 2 JunBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/8 Miles · Inner turfAllowance Optional Claiming3920.0Jose Ortiz122
Thu 13 AprAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMaiden Special Weight1850.0Jose Lezcano
Sat 21 JanAQUEDUCT1 Mile · DirtMaiden Special Weight5700.0
Sat 17 DecAQUEDUCT1 Mile · DirtMaiden Special Weight4800.0Jose Lezcano119
Sun 6 NovAQUEDUCT6 Furlongs · DirtMaiden Special Weight5440.0Junior Alvarado119

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

11Stride121 lbLThiago Canuto54.39230/151/1

Probability

Pace

Early
4.4
Middle
4.4
Finish
3.3
Post draw
5.0%

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
54.3
Career best · average
95.0 · 81.0
Class, average · last
92 · 95
Power
84.7 · 9th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
29: 4-7-4
Wins
13.8%
Earnings
$155,065
Per start
$5,347.07

Connections and form

Jockey
Thiago Canuto
Trainer
Hugo Andrade 3/47
Weight · days off
121 · 46d

Gelding · L

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Fri 25 OctKEENELAND1 3/16 Miles · TurfAllowancenot runThiago Canuto122
Fri 18 OctKEENELAND1 Mile · TurfAllowancenot runThiago Canuto122
Mon 16 SepMOUNTAINEER1 Mile · TurfAllowance Optional Claiming2950.0Antioco Murgia120
Sat 24 AugBELTERRA PARK1 Mile · TurfStarter Optional Claimingnot runThiago Canuto122
Wed 21 AugBELTERRA PARK1 Mile · TurfAllowance2830.0Thiago Canuto122
Sat 3 AugBELTERRA PARK1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtAllowance Optional Claimingnot runThiago Canuto123
Fri 2 AugBELTERRA PARK1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtAllowance Optional Claimingnot runThiago Canuto123
Sat 6 JulBELTERRA PARK1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtClaiming1450.0Rolando Aragon123

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

12B B Princescratched30/1
13Flying Houdiniscratched20/1
14Saint in the City121 lbLFrancisco Arrieta55.69110/159/3

Probability

Pace

Early
4.4
Middle
4.4
Finish
3.0
Post draw

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
55.6
Career best · average
94.0 · 84.0
Class, average · last
91 · 96
Power
88.7 · 5th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
4: 0-0-0
Wins
0.0%
Earnings
$145,097
Per start
$8,060.94

Connections and form

Jockey
Francisco Arrieta
Trainer
Thomas Van Berg 2/12
Weight · days off
121 · 8d

6yo · Gelding · L

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Thu 24 OctHORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS1 1/16 Miles · TurfAllowance788.0Joseph Ramos122
Fri 18 OctKEENELAND1 Mile · TurfAllowancenot runJaime Torres122
Sun 22 SepCHURCHILL DOWNS1 1/16 Miles · DirtClaiming682.0Jaime Torres122
Mon 12 AugELLIS PARK1 Mile · TurfClaiming184.0Jaime Torres123
Fri 5 JulELLIS PARK1 Mile · DirtClaimingnot runJaime Torres123
Thu 6 JunCHURCHILL DOWNS6 Furlongs · DirtStarter Allowance871.0Tyler Gaffalione123
Sun 28 AprGULFSTREAM PARK7 1/2 Furlongs · TurfMaiden Claiming181.0Joe Bravo125
Sat 16 MarGULFSTREAM PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMaiden Special Weight685.0Junior Alvarado125

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

15Karlwithanarlscratched30/1
16Lead Foot118 lbLLaureano Sosa55.47715/1103/1

Probability

Pace

Early
7.8
Middle
7.1
Finish
4.9
Post draw

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
55.4
Career best · average
89.0 · 68.0
Class, average · last
77 · 90
Power
77.4 · 14th in field

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
Laureano Sosa
Trainer
Reina Gonzalez 0/3
Weight · days off
118 · 15d

Gelding · L

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Thu 17 OctHORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS1 1/16 Miles · TurfClaiming7800.0Laureano Sosa118
Tue 1 OctHORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS1 Mile 70 Yards · DirtClaimingnot runFernando De La Cruz118
Sat 24 AugELLIS PARK1 Mile · TurfAllowancenot runRafael Bejarano118
Mon 12 AugELLIS PARK1 Mile · TurfClaiming5780.0Carlos Lopez118
Sun 28 JulELLIS PARK1 Mile · TurfClaiming6790.0Rogelio Miranda118
Fri 14 JunCHURCHILL DOWNS6 Furlongs · DirtClaiming6670.0Ricardo Santana, Jr.120
Sun 26 MayCHURCHILL DOWNS6 1/2 Furlongs · DirtMaiden Claiming1700.0Cristian Torres118
Fri 10 MayCHURCHILL DOWNS7 1/2 Furlongs · DirtMaiden Claiming6650.0Martin Chuan118

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

21 running · 4 scratched

pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate