Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 19Our Prayer | $9.80 | $5.40 | $3.80 |
| 27Old Fashioned Girl | — | $11.00 | $4.60 |
| 34Orozimba | — | — | $3.60 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 9-7 | $1.00 | $55.00 |
| Trifecta | 9-7-4 | $0.50 | $169.25 |
| Superfecta | 9-7-4-5 | $0.10 | $620.32 |
| Super high five | 9-7-4-5-6 | $0.20 | $14086.60 |
1Maiden Lane123 lbLLaureano Sosa54.9796/13/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.0
- Middle
- 7.0
- Finish
- 5.0
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.9
- Career best · average
- 72.0 · 68.0
- Class, average · last
- 79 · 83
- Power
- 70.6 · 3rd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 16: 2-1-3
- Wins
- 12.5%
- Earnings
- $48,827
- Per start
- $3,051.69
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Laureano Sosa
- Trainer
- Timothy Hamm 15/57
- Weight · days off
- 123 · 82d
Filly · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 18 Jun | THISTLEDOWN | 1 Mile · Dirt | Allowance | — | not run | Anthony Nunez | 119 |
| Fri 2 May | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 5 | 720.0 | Jose Batista | 124 |
| Sun 16 Mar | TAMPA BAY | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Hector Diaz, Jr. | 118 |
| Tue 15 Oct | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 640.0 | Gaddiel Martinez | 119 |
| Tue 24 Sep | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 4 | 790.0 | Gaddiel Martinez | 120 |
| Wed 4 Sep | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Claiming | 1 | 780.0 | Gaddiel Martinez | 118 |
| Mon 19 Aug | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 2 | 780.0 | Gaddiel Martinez | 118 |
| Wed 14 Aug | SARATOGA | 1 Mile · Inner turf | Allowance | — | 740.0 | — | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Last Chance Dance123 lbLKevin Jimenez51.26520/194/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.3
- Middle
- 6.4
- Finish
- 5.5
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 51.2
- Career best · average
- 60.0 · 34.0
- Class, average · last
- 65 · 61
- Power
- 38.0 · 11th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $955.32
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Kevin Jimenez
- Trainer
- Sal Guerrero 0/6
- Weight · days off
- 123 · 13d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 10 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 24.0 | Kevin Jimenez | 123 |
| Fri 28 Feb | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Thiago Canuto | 124 |
| Sat 15 Feb | TURFWAY PARK | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 12 | 39.0 | Thiago Canuto | 124 |
| Sun 12 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Thiago Canuto | — |
| Wed 8 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Thiago Canuto | — |
| Wed 30 Oct | MAHONING VALLEY RACE COURSE | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 6.0 | Mauro Cedillo | — |
| Sat 5 Oct | BELTERRA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 13.0 | Noel Herman | 117 |
| Thu 26 Sep | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 43.0 | Gabriel Lagunes | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Why Looky Here125 lbLJohn McKee52.1758/117
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.4
- Middle
- 6.6
- Finish
- 5.5
- Post draw
- 14.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.1
- Career best · average
- — · 59.0
- Class, average · last
- 75 · 61
- Power
- 48.4 · 10th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,875.33
Connections and form
- Jockey
- John McKee
- Trainer
- Jeffrey Greenhill 2/10
- Weight · days off
- 125 · 13d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 10 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 570.0 | John McKee | 123 |
| Sat 21 Jun | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 590.0 | John McKee | 123 |
| Sat 7 Jun | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 570.0 | John McKee | 123 |
| Sat 17 May | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Allowance | 5 | 460.0 | John McKee | 123 |
| Wed 23 Apr | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 550.0 | Joseph Ramos | 122 |
| Fri 15 Nov | PLEASANTON | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 650.0 | Frank Alvarado | — |
| Fri 25 Oct | PLEASANTON | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 3 | 640.0 | Frank Alvarado | — |
| Sun 18 Aug | SANTA ROSA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 5 | 680.0 | Frank Alvarado | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Orozimba123 lbLYarmarie Correa54.0785/113/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 1.6
- Middle
- 1.3
- Finish
- 5.5
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.0
- Career best · average
- 70.0 · 56.0
- Class, average · last
- 78 · 74
- Power
- 81.4 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,960.19
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Yarmarie Correa
- Trainer
- Robert Cline 8/32
- Weight · days off
- 123 · 21d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 2 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 5 | 65.0 | Yarmarie Correa | 123 |
| Sat 31 May | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Yarmarie Correa | 123 |
| Sat 29 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 510.0 | Yarmarie Correa | 124 |
| Fri 14 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 7 | 610.0 | Yarmarie Correa | 124 |
| Fri 24 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 1 | 840.0 | Yarmarie Correa | 121 |
| Thu 26 Dec | TURFWAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 620.0 | Yarmarie Correa | 116 |
| Tue 1 Oct | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | 6 | 700.0 | Addiel Ayala | 119 |
| Wed 11 Sep | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 7 | 640.0 | Thiago Canuto | 118 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Spring Spinning123 lbLLexander Sanchez52.27512/144/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.4
- Middle
- 5.1
- Finish
- 6.4
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.2
- Career best · average
- 71.0 · 51.0
- Class, average · last
- 75 · 65
- Power
- 52.3 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Lexander Sanchez
- Trainer
- James Alessi 1/46
- Weight · days off
- 123 · 34d
Mare · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 19 Jun | BELTERRA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 49.0 | Lexander Sanchez | 123 |
| Sat 7 Jun | BELTERRA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 40.0 | Lexander Sanchez | 123 |
| Fri 28 Mar | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | Barrington Bell | 118 |
| Fri 21 Feb | TAMPA BAY | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 34.0 | John Hiraldo | 118 |
| Sun 16 Feb | TAMPA BAY | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | — | not run | John Hiraldo | 118 |
| Fri 24 Jan | TAMPA BAY | 1 mile 40 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 17.0 | Christian Maragh | 108 |
| Sun 12 Jan | TAMPA BAY | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 59.0 | John Hiraldo | 118 |
| Sun 22 Dec | TAMPA BAY | 1 mile 40 Yards · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | 8 | 44.0 | Sara Hess | 113 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Soulstone123 lbLEddie Jurado53.07315/143/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.6
- Middle
- 6.7
- Finish
- 5.6
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.0
- Career best · average
- 74.0 · 56.0
- Class, average · last
- 73 · 83
- Power
- 56.2 · 7th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Eddie Jurado
- Trainer
- Deborah Hernandez 0/8
- Weight · days off
- 123 · 7d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 16 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 9 | 63.0 | Eddie Jurado | 123 |
| Wed 2 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 4 | 74.0 | Eddie Jurado | 123 |
| Thu 19 Jun | BELTERRA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 47.0 | Eddie Jurado | 123 |
| Sat 21 Sep | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 29.0 | Alexandra Sherman | 117 |
| Wed 4 Sep | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 5 | 55.0 | Rogelio Miranda | 122 |
| Sat 17 Aug | SARATOGA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 890.0 | — | — |
| Wed 7 Aug | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 60.0 | Antioco Murgia | 122 |
| Thu 25 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 7 | 72.0 | Antioco Murgia | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Old Fashioned Girl123 lbOrlando Bocachica52.1778/143/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.9
- Middle
- 6.2
- Finish
- 5.4
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.1
- Career best · average
- 67.0 · 67.0
- Class, average · last
- 77 · 74
- Power
- 72.8 · 2nd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,634.55
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Orlando Bocachica
- Trainer
- Paul McEntee 1/4
- Weight · days off
- 123 · 21d
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 2 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 8 | 55.0 | Albin Jimenez | 123 |
| Thu 12 Jun | WOODBINE | 1 Mile · Inner turf | Starter Optional Claiming | 4 | 630.0 | Joseph Bealmear | 121 |
| Wed 28 May | PRESQUE ISLE DOWNS | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 74.0 | McKenna Anderson | 123 |
| Thu 20 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 2 | 68.0 | Sophie Doyle | 125 |
| Fri 28 Feb | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 1 | 71.0 | Sophie Doyle | 124 |
| Fri 7 Feb | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 4 | 69.0 | Angel Serpa | 124 |
| Wed 29 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 5 | 57.0 | Angel Serpa | 120 |
| Sun 12 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Angel Serpa | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Sonho de Verao118 lbLOscar Villarreal52.27310/152/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.7
- Middle
- 5.2
- Finish
- 5.9
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.2
- Career best · average
- 74.0 · 57.0
- Class, average · last
- 73 · 69
- Power
- 62.4 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Oscar Villarreal
- Trainer
- Inocencio Quezada 1/3
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 11d
Mare · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 12 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 42.0 | Thiago Canuto | 123 |
| Sat 5 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Starter Optional Claiming | — | not run | Jann Hernandez | 123 |
| Thu 19 Jun | BELTERRA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 63.0 | Javier Padron-Barcenas | 123 |
| Wed 11 Jun | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 450.0 | Oscar Villarreal | 118 |
| Sat 31 May | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 58.0 | Oscar Villarreal | 118 |
| Sat 29 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Jann Hernandez | 118 |
| Thu 20 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 4 | 72.0 | Jann Hernandez | 125 |
| Thu 27 Feb | TURFWAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Jann Hernandez | 123 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Our Prayer123 lbLAlbin Jimenez51.8723/131/8
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 7.7
- Middle
- 7.7
- Finish
- 5.8
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 51.8
- Career best · average
- 75.0 · 64.0
- Class, average · last
- 72 · 67
- Power
- 59.9 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,892.86
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Albin Jimenez
- Trainer
- Larry Smith 18/66
- Weight · days off
- 123 · 32d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 21 Jun | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 65.0 | Albin Jimenez | 123 |
| Sat 7 Jun | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 63.0 | Albin Jimenez | 123 |
| Fri 23 May | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 68.0 | Albin Jimenez | 123 |
| Sat 10 May | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 71.0 | Albin Jimenez | 123 |
| Thu 20 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 66.0 | Albin Jimenez | 126 |
| Thu 27 Feb | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 4 | 69.0 | Irving Moncada | 121 |
| Fri 17 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 58.0 | Fernando De La Cruz | 122 |
| Thu 2 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 65.0 | Fernando De La Cruz | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Ticket to Fly300d off118 lbLSummer Pauly51.47510/127/1
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.0
- Middle
- 4.0
- Finish
- 9.0
- Post draw
- 6.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 51.4
- Career best · average
- 40.0 · 51.0
- Class, average · last
- 75 · 86
- Power
- 49.0 · 9th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Summer Pauly
- Trainer
- Jeffrey Greenhill
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 300d
Mare · L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 26 Sep | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 9 | 40.0 | Fernando De La Cruz | 118 |
| Wed 19 Jun | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 1 | 62.0 | Fernando De La Cruz | 118 |
| Tue 7 May | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 62.0 | Alberto Burgos | — |
| Wed 20 Mar | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 4 | 58.0 | Axel Concepcion | 120 |
| Fri 9 Feb | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 9 | 33.0 | Axel Concepcion | — |
| Thu 18 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 9 | 43.0 | Perry Ouzts | 120 |
| Sat 16 Dec | TURFWAY PARK | 6 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 9 | 42.0 | Perry Ouzts | 119 |
| Wed 6 Sep | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Maiden Special Weight | 8 | 39.0 | Samuel Bermudez | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
11Ribaldry (IRE)123 lbLVictor Lebron52.8774/113/3
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.7
- Middle
- 3.1
- Finish
- 5.0
- Post draw
- 4.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.8
- Career best · average
- 78.0 · 54.0
- Class, average · last
- 77 · 74
- Power
- 56.3 · 6th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,579.26
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Victor Lebron
- Trainer
- Thomas Van Berg
- Weight · days off
- 123 · 21d
L
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 2 Jul | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 9 | 60.0 | Rafael Mojica, Jr. | 123 |
| Sat 24 Aug | BELTERRA PARK | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 2 | 78.0 | John McKee | 122 |
| Sat 30 Mar | HAWTHORNE | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 30.0 | Jareth Loveberry | 122 |
| Thu 8 Feb | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 8 | 46.0 | Axel Concepcion | — |
| Thu 18 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | — | not run | Luan Machado | 120 |
| Sat 6 Jan | TURFWAY PARK | 1 Mile · All Weather Track | Claiming | 3 | 64.0 | Declan Cannon | 121 |
| Fri 8 Dec | TURFWAY PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · All Weather Track | Claiming | 10 | 50.0 | Declan Cannon | 120 |
| Wed 15 Nov | HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS | 1 Mile · Turf | Claiming | 3 | 73.0 | Emmanuel Esquivel | 122 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate