Result
official| Horse | Win | Place | Show |
|---|---|---|---|
| 16Antiquarian | $13.80 | $5.30 | $3.50 |
| 23The Wine Steward | — | $3.00 | $2.30 |
| 31Protective | — | — | $3.00 |
| Pool | Finish | On | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Exacta | 6-3 | — | $15.20 |
| Trifecta | 6-3-1 | — | $26.12 |
| Superfecta | 6-3-1-2 | — | $18.55 |
Protective——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Protective.
The Wine Steward——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $2,996.80
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for The Wine Steward.
Protective——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Protective.
Protective——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $116.70
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Protective.
Protective——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Protective.
Deterministic——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Deterministic.
Deterministic——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Deterministic.
Deterministic——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Deterministic.
Deterministic——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Deterministic.
Antiquarian——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 17: 2-2-2
- Wins
- 11.8%
- Earnings
- $9,026
- Per start
- $530.94
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Antiquarian.
Deterministic——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Deterministic.
Deterministic——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-1-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $129,610
- Per start
- $2,700.21
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
7yo · Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Deterministic.
Deterministic——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $277.80
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Deterministic.
Native Land——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Native Land.
Time for Trouble——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,212.08
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Time for Trouble.
Time for Trouble——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $9,394.66
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Time for Trouble.
The Wine Steward——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 31: 5-9-5
- Wins
- 16.1%
- Earnings
- $33,548
- Per start
- $1,082.19
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for The Wine Steward.
Antiquarian——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 30: 10-7-3
- Wins
- 33.3%
- Earnings
- $134,567
- Per start
- $4,485.57
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Antiquarian.
Antiquarian——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Antiquarian.
Protective——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Protective.
Protective——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Gelding
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Protective.
Protective——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Protective.
Antiquarian——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Antiquarian.
Antiquarian——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Filly
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Antiquarian.
Native Land——————
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- —
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- —
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,178.89
Connections and form
- Jockey
- —
- Trainer
- —
- Weight · days off
- —
Past performances
No prior starts recorded for Native Land.
1Protective118 lbIrad Ortiz, Jr.53.9868/133/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 6.4
- Middle
- 6.4
- Finish
- 3.0
- Post draw
- 14.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.9
- Career best · average
- 97.0 · 86.0
- Class, average · last
- 86 · 97
- Power
- 95.1 · 4th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $19,460.29
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Irad Ortiz, Jr.
- Trainer
- Todd Pletcher 56/278
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 34d
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 6 Apr | AQUEDUCT | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Wood Memorial S. Presented by Resorts World Casino | 3 | 1020.0 | Kendrick Carmouche | 123 |
| Sun 10 Mar | TAMPA BAY | 1 mile 40 Yards · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 4 | 800.0 | Samy Camacho | 120 |
| Sat 22 Jul | SARATOGA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 2 | 770.0 | Irad Ortiz, Jr. | 119 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2Unique Insight118 lbEric Cancel53.1858/16
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 3.4
- Middle
- 3.7
- Finish
- 3.9
- Post draw
- 7.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.1
- Career best · average
- 96.0 · 80.0
- Class, average · last
- 85 · 91
- Power
- 95.2 · 3rd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Eric Cancel
- Trainer
- Chad Brown 7/12
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 28d
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 12 Apr | AQUEDUCT | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 930.0 | Eric Cancel | 122 |
| Sun 18 Feb | AQUEDUCT | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 870.0 | Eric Cancel | 120 |
| Sun 31 Dec | AQUEDUCT | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 5 | 810.0 | Manuel Franco | 119 |
| Fri 8 Dec | AQUEDUCT | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | — | not run | Manuel Franco | 119 |
| Sat 11 Nov | AQUEDUCT | 1 1/16 Miles · Outer turf | Maiden Special Weight | 7 | 710.0 | Irad Ortiz, Jr. | 119 |
| Fri 6 Oct | BELMONT AT THE BIG A | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 7 | 600.0 | Manuel Franco | 119 |
| Fri 29 Sep | BELMONT AT THE BIG A | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | — | not run | Manuel Franco | 119 |
| Sat 2 Sep | SARATOGA | 1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf | Maiden Special Weight | — | not run | Javier Castellano | 119 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3The Wine Steward120 lbLuis Saez55.5925/26/5
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.0
- Middle
- 3.7
- Finish
- 1.7
- Post draw
- 26.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.5
- Career best · average
- 107.0 · 95.0
- Class, average · last
- 92 · 99
- Power
- 95.6 · 2nd in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Luis Saez
- Trainer
- Michael Maker 14/90
- Weight · days off
- 120 · 27d
Horse
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 13 Apr | KEENELAND | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Stonestreet Lexington S. | 2 | 1040.0 | Luis Saez | 118 |
| Fri 3 Nov | SANTA ANITA | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | FanDuel Breeders' Cup Juvenile presented by Thoroughbred Aftercare Alliance | — | not run | Luis Saez | 122 |
| Sat 7 Oct | KEENELAND | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Claiborne Breeders' Futurity | 2 | 970.0 | Luis Saez | 122 |
| Sun 27 Aug | SARATOGA | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Funny Cide S. Presented by Rood and Riddle Equine Hospital | 1 | 940.0 | Manuel Franco | 122 |
| Sun 2 Jul | ELLIS PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Bashford Manor S. | 1 | 880.0 | Luis Saez | 120 |
| Sun 28 May | BELMONT PARK | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 900.0 | Irad Ortiz, Jr. | 119 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6Antiquarian118 lbJohn Velazquez53.3966/141/7
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 2.9
- Middle
- 2.3
- Finish
- 2.6
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.3
- Career best · average
- 92.0 · 83.0
- Class, average · last
- 96 · 100
- Power
- 88.1 · 8th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 2-1-0
- Wins
- 50.0%
- Earnings
- $1,110,350
- Per start
- $100,940.91
Connections and form
- Jockey
- John Velazquez
- Trainer
- Todd Pletcher 10/59
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 48d
5yo · Horse
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 23 Mar | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 3/16 Miles · Dirt | Twinspires.com Louisiana Derby | 6 | 92.0 | John Velazquez | — |
| Sat 17 Feb | FAIR GROUNDS | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 87.0 | John Velazquez | 122 |
| Sat 13 Jan | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 2 | 86.0 | John Velazquez | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Deterministic123 lbJoel Rosario54.8905/119/7
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 4.2
- Middle
- 4.6
- Finish
- 2.7
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.8
- Career best · average
- 76.0 · 87.0
- Class, average · last
- 90 · 97
- Power
- 95.9 · 1st in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Joel Rosario
- Trainer
- Christophe Clement 24/123
- Weight · days off
- 123 · 34d
Horse
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 6 Apr | AQUEDUCT | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Wood Memorial S. Presented by Resorts World Casino | 8 | 81.0 | Joel Rosario | 123 |
| Sat 2 Mar | AQUEDUCT | 1 Mile · Dirt | Gotham S. | 1 | 97.0 | Joel Rosario | — |
| Sat 12 Aug | SARATOGA | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 87.0 | Joel Rosario | 119 |
| Sat 22 Jul | SARATOGA | 1 1/16 Miles · Inner turf | Maiden Special Weight | — | not run | Flavien Prat | 119 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Native Land118 lbJunior Alvarado52.69012/129/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- 5.1
- Middle
- 4.5
- Finish
- 1.6
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 52.6
- Career best · average
- 97.0 · 84.0
- Class, average · last
- 90 · 94
- Power
- 94.4 · 5th in field
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $17,927.50
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Junior Alvarado
- Trainer
- Riley Mott 9/44
- Weight · days off
- 118 · 30d
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 10 Apr | KEENELAND | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 | 97.0 | Junior Alvarado | 120 |
| Sat 9 Mar | OAKLAWN PARK | 1 1/8 Miles · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 98.0 | Luis Fuentes | 122 |
| Sun 11 Feb | OAKLAWN PARK | 1 1/16 Miles · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 2 | 72.0 | Luis Fuentes | — |
| Sat 13 Jan | OAKLAWN PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 3 | 76.0 | Luis Fuentes | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate