AQUEDUCT · Race 4

(up To $7,380 Nysbfoa)for Maidens, Three Years Old And Upward.

←Race 4 of 9→

Result

official
HorseWinPlaceShow
14Mambo At the Gym$13.40$6.20$3.60
25Special Ops—$5.50$3.10
310Identity Crisis——$2.50
PoolFinishOnPaid
Exacta4-5—$72.50
Trifecta4-5-10—$233.00
Superfecta4-5-10-12—$1338.00
MAIDEN CLAIMING · 1 1/16 Miles · Turf · Purse $41,000
HorsePaceSpeedClassEVWinMLLive odds
Identity Crisis——————

Probability

Pace

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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$5,695.61

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Identity Crisis.

Harbor King——————

Probability

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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$4,024.32

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Harbor King.

Ready Mecke——————

Probability

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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
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Wins
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Earnings
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Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Colt

Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Ready Mecke.

Special Ops——————

Probability

Pace

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Career best · average
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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
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Wins
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Earnings
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Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Special Ops.

Captain Keon——————

Probability

Pace

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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
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Wins
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Earnings
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Per start
not reported

Connections and form

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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Captain Keon.

Bold Runner——————

Probability

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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
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Earnings
not reported
Per start
$1,642.88

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Bold Runner.

Without Fear——————

Probability

Pace

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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
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Career best · average
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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
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Wins
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Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Without Fear.

Mambo At the Gym——————

Probability

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Career best · average
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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$4,313.98

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Mambo At the Gym.

1Beau Madre——————

Probability

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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
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Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances

No prior starts recorded for Beau Madre.

2Bold Runner——————

Probability

Pace

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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
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Career best · average
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Class, average · last
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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$1,642.88

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Wed 12 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Sun 19 OctBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING6740.0——
Sun 19 OctBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING6not run——
Wed 1 OctBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING3510.0——
Wed 1 OctBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING3not run——
Sat 13 SepBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING2830.0——
Sat 13 SepBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING2not run——
Wed 27 AugSARATOGA1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING3910.0——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

3Captain Keon——————

Probability

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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
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Career best · average
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Class, average · last
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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Thu 13 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT4900.0——
Thu 13 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT4not run——
Wed 12 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Sun 19 OctBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING2820.0——
Sun 19 OctBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING2not run——
Sun 21 SepBELMONT PARK6 Furlongs · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Mon 11 AugSARATOGA5 1/2 Furlongs · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING5730.0——
Mon 11 AugSARATOGA5 1/2 Furlongs · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING5not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

4Mambo At the Gym——————

Probability

Pace

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Finish
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
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Career best · average
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Class, average · last
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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$4,313.98

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Wed 12 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING2770.0——
Wed 12 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING2not run——
Fri 17 OctLAUREL PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT—not run——
Fri 26 SepBELMONT PARK1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT7780.0——
Fri 26 SepBELMONT PARK1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT7not run——
Wed 10 SepBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING2860.0——
Wed 10 SepBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING2not run——
Sun 17 AugSARATOGA1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT5880.0——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

5Special Ops——————

Probability

Pace

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Finish
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
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Career best · average
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Class, average · last
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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances
7 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Thu 30 OctAQUEDUCT1 3/8 Miles · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT7840.0——
Thu 30 OctAQUEDUCT1 3/8 Miles · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT7not run——
Sun 19 OctBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Wed 1 OctBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Sat 21 DecGULFSTREAM PARK1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Sat 14 DecGULFSTREAM PARK1 1/16 Miles · DirtMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT12130.0——
Sat 14 DecGULFSTREAM PARK1 1/16 Miles · DirtMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT12not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

6Shylock——————

Probability

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Recent form, last 4
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Class, average · last
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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
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Earnings
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Per start
not reported

Connections and form

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Ridgling

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sun 26 OctBELMONT PARK6 Furlongs · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING6600.0——
Sun 26 OctBELMONT PARK6 Furlongs · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING6not run——
Sat 11 OctBELMONT PARK6 Furlongs · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Sun 21 SepBELMONT PARK6 Furlongs · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Wed 27 AugSARATOGA1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING7810.0——
Wed 27 AugSARATOGA1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING7not run——
Mon 11 AugSARATOGA5 1/2 Furlongs · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING7720.0——
Mon 11 AugSARATOGA5 1/2 Furlongs · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING7not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

7Celebrate We Will——————

Probability

Pace

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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
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Career best · average
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Class, average · last
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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$1,433.33

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances
7 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Thu 20 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Wed 5 NovAQUEDUCT1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING3760.0——
Wed 5 NovAQUEDUCT1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING3not run——
Sat 25 OctBELMONT PARK7 Furlongs · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Sun 28 SepBELMONT PARK6 1/2 Furlongs · DirtMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT11270.0——
Sun 28 SepBELMONT PARK6 1/2 Furlongs · DirtMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT11not run——
Wed 13 AugSARATOGA7 Furlongs · DirtMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT—not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

8Without Fear——————

Probability

Pace

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Finish
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
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Career best · average
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Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Fri 21 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT9not run——
Fri 21 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT9not run——
Wed 17 SepBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT7750.0——
Wed 17 SepBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT7not run——
Mon 4 AugSARATOGA1 1/8 Miles · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT5750.0——
Mon 4 AugSARATOGA1 1/8 Miles · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT5not run——
Wed 25 JunBELMONT PARK1 1/8 Miles · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT5740.0——
Wed 25 JunBELMONT PARK1 1/8 Miles · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT5not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

9Perfect Dancing——————

Probability

Pace

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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
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Career best · average
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Class, average · last
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Power
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Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$632.38

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Thu 20 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Wed 6 AugSARATOGA1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING10not run——
Wed 6 AugSARATOGA1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING10not run——
Sun 6 JulBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING5670.0——
Sun 6 JulBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING5not run——
Fri 27 JunBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Wed 4 JunBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING4680.0——
Wed 4 JunBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING4not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

10Identity Crisis——————

Probability

Pace

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Middle
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Finish
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
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Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$5,695.61

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sun 12 OctBELMONT PARK1 Mile · DirtMAIDEN CLAIMING2860.0——
Sun 12 OctBELMONT PARK1 Mile · DirtMAIDEN CLAIMING2not run——
Wed 24 SepBELMONT PARK1 Mile · DirtMAIDEN CLAIMING6300.0——
Wed 24 SepBELMONT PARK1 Mile · DirtMAIDEN CLAIMING6not run——
Thu 28 AugSARATOGA1 1/8 Miles · DirtMAIDEN CLAIMING3900.0——
Thu 28 AugSARATOGA1 1/8 Miles · DirtMAIDEN CLAIMING3not run——
Mon 18 AugSARATOGA1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Wed 30 JulSARATOGA1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT11770.0——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

11Bob and Jim——————

Probability

Pace

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Finish
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
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Career best · average
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Class, average · last
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Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
30: 0-4-2
Wins
0.0%
Earnings
$55,965
Per start
$1,865.50

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Colt

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Thu 20 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Thu 30 OctAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING2770.0——
Thu 30 OctAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING2not run——
Sun 12 OctBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING5710.0——
Sun 12 OctBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING5not run——
Fri 5 SepBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING2750.0——
Fri 5 SepBELMONT PARK1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING2not run——
Mon 4 AugSARATOGA1 1/8 Miles · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT6740.0——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

12Ready Mecke——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
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Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
—

Colt

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Wed 12 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Sun 19 OctBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING4760.0——
Sun 19 OctBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING4not run——
Thu 12 JunCHURCHILL DOWNS1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Fri 16 MayCHURCHILL DOWNS1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING5730.0——
Fri 16 MayCHURCHILL DOWNS1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING5not run——
Wed 16 AprKEENELAND1 1/8 Miles · All Weather TrackMAIDEN CLAIMING5850.0——
Wed 16 AprKEENELAND1 1/8 Miles · All Weather TrackMAIDEN CLAIMING5not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

13Moonsilver——————

Probability

Pace

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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
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Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
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Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
not reported

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
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Colt

Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Wed 26 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · DirtMAIDEN CLAIMING3480.0——
Wed 26 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · DirtMAIDEN CLAIMING3not run——
Wed 12 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING—not run——
Wed 29 OctAQUEDUCT6 Furlongs · DirtMAIDEN CLAIMING7270.0——
Wed 29 OctAQUEDUCT6 Furlongs · DirtMAIDEN CLAIMING7not run——
Sun 19 OctBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING8690.0——
Sun 19 OctBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING8not run——
Sat 11 OctBELMONT PARK6 Furlongs · TurfMAIDEN CLAIMING8not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

14Harbor King——————

Probability

Pace

Early
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Middle
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Finish
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Post draw
—

Speed and class

Recent form, last 4
—
Career best · average
—
Class, average · last
—
Power
—

Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.

Career

Record
not reported
Wins
—
Earnings
not reported
Per start
$4,024.32

Connections and form

Jockey
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Trainer
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Weight · days off
—
Past performances
8 prior starts, most recent first
DateTrackDistance · surfaceClassFinishSpeedJockeyWt
Sun 2 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · DirtMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT8600.0——
Sun 2 NovAQUEDUCT1 Mile · DirtMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT8not run——
Fri 24 OctBELMONT PARK1 Mile · DirtMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT6750.0——
Fri 24 OctBELMONT PARK1 Mile · DirtMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT6not run——
Sat 18 OctBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfSTAKES—not run——
Fri 17 OctBELMONT PARKAbout 1 1/16 Miles · TurfMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT—not run——
Thu 21 AugSARATOGA1 1/8 Miles · DirtMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT6790.0——
Thu 21 AugSARATOGA1 1/8 Miles · DirtMAIDEN SPECIAL WEIGHT6not run——

Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.

22 running

pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate