1No Bills Campaign124 lbEnrique Gomez—53.9—10/110
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.9
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Enrique Gomez
- Trainer
- Rafael Barraza
- Weight · days off
- 124 · —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed 22 Jul | CANTERBURY PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | — | 5 | 21.0 | — | — |
| Sun 21 Jun | CANTERBURY PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 72.0 | Constantino Roman | 125 |
| Thu 4 Jun | CANTERBURY PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 48.0 | Constantino Roman | 125 |
| Wed 22 Apr | TURF PARADISE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 5 | 46.0 | Frank Alvarado | 126 |
| Sat 7 Feb | GULFSTREAM PARK | 5 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 5 | 60.0 | Jose Morelos | 123 |
| Thu 15 Jan | GULFSTREAM PARK | 1 Mile 70 Yards · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 9 | 48.0 | Jose Morelos | 123 |
| Thu 18 Dec | GULFSTREAM PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 670.0 | Jose Morelos | 122 |
| Fri 14 Nov | GULFSTREAM PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · All Weather Track | Maiden Claiming | — | not run | Jose Morelos | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
2West Is West124 lbAldo Arboleda—55.5—7/27/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.5
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Aldo Arboleda
- Trainer
- Jeffrey Trujillo
- Weight · days off
- 124 · —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 4 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 48.0 | Aldo Arboleda | — |
| Sun 12 Jul | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | — | 3 | 82.0 | — | — |
| Mon 25 May | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 74.0 | Aldo Arboleda | — |
| Sat 9 May | SUNRAY PARK | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 66.0 | Aldo Arboleda | — |
| Mon 20 Apr | TURF PARADISE | 1 Mile · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 5 | 56.0 | Cerapio Figueroa | 126 |
| Mon 23 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 66.0 | Karlo Lopez | — |
| Tue 10 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 65.0 | Manuel Americano | — |
| Thu 26 Feb | TURF PARADISE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 3 | 720.0 | Karlo Lopez | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
3Going With Her121 lbJose Vazquez—54.7—15/115
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.7
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $405.90
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Jose Vazquez
- Trainer
- Natalie Douglas
- Weight · days off
- 121 · —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 30 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 6 | 39.0 | Luis Rodriguez | — |
| Fri 15 May | MILES CITY | 5 1/4 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Dakota Wood | — |
| Sun 21 Sep | SWEETWATER DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 7 | 30.0 | Dakota Wood | — |
| Fri 5 Sep | BLACKFOOT | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 2 | 50.0 | Dakota Wood | — |
| Mon 1 Sep | BLACKFOOT | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 38.0 | Dakota Wood | — |
| Sat 26 Jul | WYOMING DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 9 | 8.0 | Cash Ramey | — |
| Sat 26 Apr | SUNRAY PARK | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 10 | 130.0 | Alejandro Medellin | — |
| Fri 14 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 7 | 400.0 | Alfredo Juarez, Jr. | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
4Silver Twilight122 lbKelsi Purcell—54.0—8/18
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 14.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.0
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $3,456
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Kelsi Purcell
- Trainer
- Danny Morales
- Weight · days off
- 122 · —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 19 Jul | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | — | 6 | 60.0 | — | — |
| Mon 25 May | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 610.0 | Alejandro Medellin | — |
| Sat 9 May | SUNRAY PARK | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 640.0 | Alejandro Medellin | — |
| Sat 11 Apr | SUNRAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 530.0 | Alejandro Medellin | — |
| Fri 28 Nov | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 6 | 350.0 | Francisco Amparan | 120 |
| Mon 10 Nov | ZIA PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 9 | 290.0 | Ken Tohill | 120 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
5Mendelssohns Music124 lbMiguel Perez—55.6—15/115
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 13.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.6
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-0-1
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $20,311
- Per start
- $846.29
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Miguel Perez
- Trainer
- Carlos Gonzalez
- Weight · days off
- 124 · —
5yo · Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 5 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 63.0 | Miguel Perez | — |
| Sun 12 Jul | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | — | 5 | 59.0 | — | — |
| Sun 21 Jun | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 61.0 | Miguel Perez | — |
| Sun 7 Jun | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 57.0 | Luis Rodriguez | — |
| Sun 10 May | SUNRAY PARK | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 65.0 | Cerapio Figueroa | — |
| Sat 2 May | SUNRAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 62.0 | Aldo Arboleda | — |
| Sat 18 Apr | SUNRAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Alejandro Medellin | — |
| Mon 30 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | 60.0 | Erick Medellin | 124 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
6I'm a Dude To124 lbAlfredo Juarez, Jr.—55.3—3/13
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 12.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.3
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Alfredo Juarez, Jr.
- Trainer
- Todd Fincher
- Weight · days off
- 124 · —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu 3 Sep | REMINGTON PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | David Cabrera | 124 |
| Sat 27 Jun | LONE STAR | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | — | 7 | 59.0 | — | — |
| Sat 9 May | LONE STAR | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 650.0 | Alfredo Juarez, Jr. | — |
| Sun 26 Apr | LONE STAR | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 3 | 670.0 | Christian Ramos | — |
| Tue 11 Nov | ZIA PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Luis Fuentes | 121 |
| Sat 30 Aug | EMERALD DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 1 | 830.0 | David Haldar | — |
| Fri 8 Aug | EMERALD DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 710.0 | David Haldar | 121 |
| Sat 19 Jul | EMERALD DOWNS | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 4 | 680.0 | Kevin Krigger | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
7Hank Hill124 lbCerapio Figueroa—55.8—20/120
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 15.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.8
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Cerapio Figueroa
- Trainer
- Luis Rojero
- Weight · days off
- 124 · —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat 5 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 62.0 | Gabriel Medrano | — |
| Sat 2 May | SUNRAY PARK | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Aldo Arboleda | — |
| Mon 30 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 61.0 | Aldo Arboleda | 124 |
| Mon 9 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 76.0 | Aldo Arboleda | 124 |
| Mon 16 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 64.0 | Ricardo Jaime | 124 |
| Sun 11 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 26.0 | Oscar Andrade, Jr. | 124 |
| Tue 16 Dec | ZIA PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 65.0 | Enrique Gomez | 119 |
| Fri 28 Nov | ZIA PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 76.0 | Francisco Amparan | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
8Forward Observer124 lbFrancisco Amparan—54.6—9/29/2
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 15.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.6
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- $1,301.94
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Francisco Amparan
- Trainer
- Alberto Amparan
- Weight · days off
- 124 · —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 4 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 54.0 | Francisco Amparan | — |
| Sun 2 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | — | 6 | 49.0 | — | — |
| Sat 11 Apr | SUNRAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Francisco Amparan | — |
| Fri 21 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 52.0 | Francisco Amparan | 124 |
| Fri 29 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 43.0 | Victor Castro | 124 |
| Thu 14 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 28.0 | Victor Castro | 124 |
| Thu 15 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 48.0 | Javier Ortega | 123 |
| Thu 25 Jan | SUNLAND PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Erick Medellin | 124 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
9Silicon Native122 lbLuis Valenzuela—55.6—6/16
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 8.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 55.6
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Luis Valenzuela
- Trainer
- James Crotts
- Weight · days off
- 122 · —
Gelding
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 23 Aug | SWEETWATER DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 7 | 16.0 | Cerapio Figueroa | — |
| Sun 9 Aug | WYOMING DOWNS | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Allowance | 5 | 56.0 | Luis Valenzuela | — |
| Fri 17 Jul | WYOMING DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | — | 1 | 73.0 | — | — |
| Sun 5 Jul | EMERALD DOWNS | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | — | 7 | 27.0 | — | — |
| Fri 5 Jun | EMERALD DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 6 | not run | Karlo Lopez | 122 |
| Mon 25 May | EMERALD DOWNS | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 2 | 70.0 | Kevin Krigger | 122 |
| Sun 3 May | SANTA ANITA | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Claiming | 9 | 42.0 | Cristobal Herrera | — |
| Sat 21 Mar | TURF PARADISE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | — | not run | Kevin Krigger | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
10Taz Marking124 lbLuis Rodriguez—53.9—20/120
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 10.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.9
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Luis Rodriguez
- Trainer
- Salvador Soto
- Weight · days off
- 124 · —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 23 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 4.0 | Jose Torres | — |
| Sun 12 Jul | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | — | 8 | 31.0 | — | — |
| Sun 7 Jun | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 64.0 | Gabriel Medrano | — |
| Mon 25 May | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 55.0 | Gabriel Medrano | — |
| Sat 18 Apr | SUNRAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 5 | 59.0 | Enrique Gomez | — |
| Sun 22 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 66.0 | Jose Vazquez | 124 |
| Mon 9 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 3 | 66.0 | Jose Vazquez | 124 |
| Mon 16 Feb | SUNLAND PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Olaf Hernandez | 124 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
11Lucky and Daring121 lbAldo Arboleda—53.8—30/130
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 9.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 53.8
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- 4: 0-0-0
- Wins
- 0.0%
- Earnings
- $11,818
- Per start
- $738.63
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Aldo Arboleda
- Trainer
- Victor Rodriguez-Flores
- Weight · days off
- 121 · —
6yo · Mare
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 23 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 7 | 28.0 | Alfredo Sigala | — |
| Sun 19 Jul | ALBUQUERQUE | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | — | 8 | not run | — | — |
| Wed 17 Sep | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 3.0 | Reyes Gomez | — |
| Fri 29 Aug | ALBUQUERQUE | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 32.0 | Reyes Gomez | — |
| Sat 10 May | SUNRAY PARK | 6 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 40.0 | Alfredo Sigala | — |
| Thu 27 Mar | SUNLAND PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 10 | 20.0 | Enrique Gomez | 119 |
| Wed 4 Dec | ZIA PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 6 | 35.0 | Aldo Arboleda | 121 |
| Mon 18 Nov | ZIA PARK | 5 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | — | not run | Aldo Arboleda | 121 |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
12No Soy Borracho124 lbRodolfo Guerra—54.7—30/130
Probability
Pace
- Early
- —
- Middle
- —
- Finish
- —
- Post draw
- 11.0%
Speed and class
- Recent form, last 4
- 54.7
- Career best · average
- —
- Class, average · last
- —
- Power
- —
Recent form and career are different scales and do not compare. Power is an input to the model, not a second opinion.
Career
- Record
- not reported
- Wins
- —
- Earnings
- not reported
- Per start
- not reported
Connections and form
- Jockey
- Rodolfo Guerra
- Trainer
- Stetson Rushton
- Weight · days off
- 124 · —
Past performances
| Date | Track | Distance · surface | Class | Finish | Speed | Jockey | Wt |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri 14 Aug | ARAPAHOE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 56.0 | Larren Delorme | — |
| Sun 2 Aug | ARAPAHOE | 7 Furlongs · Dirt | — | 4 | 41.0 | — | — |
| Fri 17 Jul | ARAPAHOE | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | — | 3 | 52.0 | — | — |
| Sun 5 Jul | ARAPAHOE | 4 1/2 Furlongs · Dirt | — | 5 | 54.0 | — | — |
| Sat 20 Jun | ARAPAHOE | 5 Furlongs · Dirt | Claiming | 2 | 69.0 | David Cardoso | — |
| Fri 17 Apr | FONNER PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 8 | not run | David Cardoso | — |
| Fri 3 Apr | FONNER PARK | 1 Mile · Dirt | Claiming | 4 | 48.0 | David Cardoso | — |
| Sat 7 Mar | FONNER PARK | 6 Furlongs · Dirt | Maiden Special Weight | 1 | 65.0 | David Cardoso | — |
Speed shades across the range these runs cover. A figure the source did not record reads not run rather than as a zero.
pari-mutuel · odds are indicative until the gate